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re: Worst SEC Ref Calls GIFs
Posted on 8/27/21 at 9:06 am to Pickle_Weasel
Posted on 8/27/21 at 9:06 am to Pickle_Weasel
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Most blatant one is probably the official looking behind him to see where the 1st down marker was at:
Theres a reason that gif doesnt show the actual play. The spot was correct
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Posted on 8/27/21 at 9:16 am to NYCAuburn
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Because a completion is not when it first touches your hands. you know this, but please continue...
No, it’s when possession is established. That doesn’t mean those two things can’t be the same. They’re not mutually exclusive. If the ball never moves, how can you determine when possession is established if it’s not the point when both hands are on the ball?
ETA: I’m including the NCAA’s definition of “possession” for further clarity.
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Player Possession
The ball is in player possession when a player has the ball firmly in his grasp by holding or controlling it while contacting the ground inbounds.
This post was edited on 8/27/21 at 9:29 am
Posted on 8/27/21 at 9:37 am to TailbackU
Posted on 8/27/21 at 9:43 am to NYCAuburn
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Because a completion is not when it first touches your hands. you know this, but please continue...
He’s biased and blind
Posted on 8/27/21 at 9:44 am to bstew3006
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He’s biased and blind
Careful with how you align yourself here. That PP “catch” is about to be a straight up incompletion with no possession.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 9:48 am to Tuscaloosa
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Careful with how you align yourself here. That PP “catch” is about to be a straight up incompletion with no possession
I’ve admitted my bias on the interception.
JJ touching the ball isn’t definitive..which also wasn’t part of the call, even though you want it to be. Lol.
Seems you can’t admit your bias on this no TD…not surprised lol
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Player Possession The ball is in player possession when a player has the ball firmly in his grasp by holding or controlling it while contacting the ground inbounds.
Your bias is saying the moment of “touching” is the exact point of controlling and that’s not how it works.
This post was edited on 8/27/21 at 9:50 am
Posted on 8/27/21 at 9:53 am to FirstCityDawg
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He jumped early because of Bama false start that was not called.
Right. So the correct call would have resulted in a 10 yard difference from the incorrect call, and either way the block would have been negated.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 9:59 am to bamawriter
If I remember correctly, this was 3rd
Or 4th down and definitely would have ended the game.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:15 am to StopRobot
"Theres a reason that gif doesnt show the actual play. The spot was correct"
No it wasn't pause it at 10 seconds. His right knee was down.
No it wasn't pause it at 10 seconds. His right knee was down.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:17 am to memphisplaya
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I’m gonna 1UP your potato photo, Tuscaloosa. PP Hands are on the ball. Julio Is reaching for the ball. Foot down and inbounds.
It was an interception
What's up with people thinking it's a catch the moment it touches the players hands?
When has that ever been the case?
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:33 am to Tuscaloosa
It’s pretty clear from those pics that PP7 is touching the ball and julio is trying to but he can’t.
Because PP7’s hands are in the way.
Because PP7’s hands are in the way.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:35 am to Pickle_Weasel
"Theres a reason that gif doesnt show the actual play. The spot was correct"
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This post was edited on 8/27/21 at 10:37 am
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:40 am to bstew3006
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Your bias is saying the moment of “touching” is the exact point of controlling and that’s not how it works.
That’s not what I said. I said it can be. Obviously, many times it’s not. In this case, the ball never moves after the point of him having both hands on the ball with a foot in bounds. By the definition, that is possession. So in this instance, it is how it works.
This post was edited on 8/27/21 at 10:42 am
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:41 am to TailbackU
Mond having his 90 yard TD run against Arkie being called out of bounds was pretty bad.
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Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:43 am to 3down10
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What's up with people thinking it's a catch the moment it touches the players hands?
When has that ever been the case?
That depends on whether or not he’s in control of the ball the moment it touches his hands, according to the definition. If the ball never moves, then he’s established control.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:47 am to Tuscaloosa
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I’m including the NCAA’s definition of “possession” for further clarity.
odd that you didnt include the definition of a catch, just below that in the rule book...
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Maintains control of the ball long enough to enable him to perform an act common to the game, i.e., long enough to pitch or hand the ball, advance it, avoid or ward off an opponent, etc., and
Also did you actually read your quote from the rule book?
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:49 am to Tuscaloosa
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That depends on whether or not he’s in control of the ball the moment it touches his hands, according to the definition. If the ball never moves, then he’s established control.
again did you actually read it?
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The ball is in player possession when a player has the ball firmly in his grasp by holding or controlling it while contacting the ground inbounds.
It states no where that it is at first contact. it states specifically "firmly in his grasp holding or controlling"
Furthermore, the definition of a catch states they have to make a football move "Maintains control of the ball long enough to enable him to perform an act common to the game" Which includes fully grasping it or pulling towards yourself. point of first contact is not that
This post was edited on 8/27/21 at 10:51 am
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:53 am to NYCAuburn
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odd that you didnt include the definition of a catch, just below that in the rule book...
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Maintains control
At what point did he lose control of the ball?
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Also did you actually read your quote from the rule book?
Yes, I’ll post it again.
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Player Possession
The ball is in player possession when a player has the ball firmly in his grasp by holding or controlling it while contacting the ground inbounds.
Curtis Brown’s foot was contacting the ground in bounds while both hands were controlling it - as evidenced by the ball never moving after the point of contact.
Which part do you take exception to?
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:55 am to NYCAuburn
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It states no where that it is at first contact
It doesn’t have to. If a player meets that definition at first contact, then the requirement has been met. Again, that doesn’t always happen, but it can. And did in this instance.
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Furthermore, the definition of a catch states they have to make a football move "Maintains control of the ball long enough to enable him to perform an act common to the game" Which includes fully grasping it or pulling towards yourself. point of first contact is not that
I don’t think this is relevant to the conversation, because he is on his way out of bounds. He was obviously “fully grasping” it, as the ball never moved.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:56 am to Tuscaloosa
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I posted that picture 3 times already. Zoom in and look at the hands. JJ hand clearly on the ball. Maybe both hands
Look again at my photo. Peterson has the ball, a foot down inbounds, and JJ is still reaching for the ball with his hand several inches from it.
You can see space b/w it. Your zoomed in photo was shot milliseconds after the screenshot I posted. I took that screenshot last night
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