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re: Will SEC defensive coordinators figure out how to stop AU's offense this year?

Posted on 6/2/14 at 10:32 am to
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 10:32 am to
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In the history of football, has there ever been an offense that couldn't be, and wasn't stopped?


Yes
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 10:35 am to
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Robenson Therezie


Was definitely our best player last season.
Posted by Tigers of War
Ewor
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 10:54 am to
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quote: Robenson Therezie Was definitely our best player last season.


This x2

As far as the offense goes people are reading too much into what Gus used last season and not his whole body of work. He changes his play calling to fit his players from year to year and depending on how Marshall evolves in the passing game we could see something completely different this year.

A side note - I can't believe someone is actually taking up for Kiffin on his NFL comments
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:13 am to
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The offense will be different this year. There will be more emphasis on the passing game
every dc and db is the sec is rubbing their hands at the prospect of marshall passing more
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:15 am to
Go back 19 years ago, and quoted poster will have his answer.
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:19 am to
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antibarner
If you dont think Sammie Coates is a future NFL wide receiver then you have zero eye for talent. Add in the number 1 JUCO Wr and i would say they have two that will play in the NFL.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:25 am to
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Go back 19 years ago, and quoted poster will have his answer.


Yup. You can also go back 4 years.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:27 am to
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If you have followed Gus's career, you would see that he has not run the same Offense two years in a row. That will be the case this year, with more weapons at WR and more comfort by Marshall. I think AU Offense will be harder to stop this year.
I agree 100% with this statement. Gus has proven that he is intuitive and creative enough to change things up on the fly. He's got a young brain that will be changing things up as they season goes.
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:29 am to
I would say for the most part, Alabama's defense held the Auburn offense in check. 28 points is bad, but not terrible considering that Auburn's offense was hitting on all cylinders at that point in the season.

The fact that we couldn't score more than 30 points against that defense was the embarrassing part.

It's always ironic to me when people in the media say that Gus has Saban's number. Look at how Gus's offenses perform against Alabama defenses.

2013: 28 points
2011: 0 points
2010: 28 points
20109: 21 points

Basically, you score 30 points or more, you win. Alabama only had 3 games in which they did not score 30 or points in 2013: Auburn, Miss St.(20-7) and Ole Miss (25-0).

That's why to me, the Auburn defense was much more impressive in the IB than the offense.

Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:33 am to
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2013: 28 points
Auburn scored 34 points. It would have been a tie game if they only scored 28
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:34 am to
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Auburn scored 34 points. It would have been a tie game if they only scored 28


Try re-reading the post.
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 11:34 am
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:35 am to
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20109



What is the secret to Gus's longevity
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:43 am to
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2013: 28 points


I hope you're just saying 7pts were from special teams.

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2011: 0 points


Not Gus's offense. He was too handicapped with new personal

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2010: 28 points

Solid/kinda solid

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20109: 21 points

Not really a true Malzahn offense yet.

Oh and in comparison to LSU

Ark 06- 26pts
Auburn 09- 10pts
Auburn 10- 24 PTs
Auburn 11- 10 PTs
Auburn13- 21 pts(against backups)



This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 11:46 am
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:47 am to
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I hope you're just saying 7pts were from special teams.


Is Gus the special teams coach? I clearly specified in the original post that those numbers were from Malzahn's offense. Didn't think it would be that hard to understand.

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Not Gus's offense


Yes it was. 14 points were scored in the game. 7 by AU's defense, 7 on a kickoff return. Gus's offense put up 0 points.

quote:

Solid/kinda solid


You have Cam Newton and you are forced to come back to win by 1 point? Doesn't seem that solid to me.

quote:

Not really a true Malzahn offense yet


Sorry, I was under the assumption he was the OC.
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:50 am to
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Try re-reading the post
I guess if special teams doesnt count then take away extra points and field goals. And tbh, since Gus put back his punt returner, it should be considered an offensive strategy and thus included in the total points scored, hence 34
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:51 am to
quote:

Sammie Coates is a future NFL wide receiver


Yes. He has immense talent. Having Duke on the other side should only help him as long as Duke lives up to a fraction of the hype.

quote:

Robenson Therezie Was definitely our best player last season.

This is truth. Kid has game, as was recognized by anyone with an eye for talent, including his HS principal back in the day.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
87006 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:56 am to
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Sorry, I was under the assumption he was the OC.


He already had two feet out the door with his batshit wife.

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Yes it was. 14 points were scored in the game. 7 by AU's defense, 7 on a kickoff return. Gus's offense put up 0 points.


However, Auburn was depleted by the draft the previous. They had not stock piled talent the manner LSU/Bama did in the previous years, so they relied on RS and true freshmen to fill many of their offensive roles. Roles they were just not quite ready for. Throw in that he was looking around for a new home, and no it was not his true offense. For Example, Tre Mason was a true freshman in 2011. 2009 they had to rely on Chris Todd to lead them.

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You have Cam Newton and you are forced to come back to win by 1 point? Doesn't seem that solid to me.


You had a Heisman winning RB, and a Heisman runner up at RB. Seems solid. I will say he should have exploited your young secondary more.
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 11:57 am
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 12:00 pm to
Well you can keep looking at what Gus did with Chizik as boss but as a HC Gus scored 20 more points than what Bama was giving up (24 if you count what they were averaging before Auburn) and beat Saban. You can brag about what Saban did when Gus had Trotter and Chizik but Gus's teams have scored on average over twice what Saban's defenses were giving up.
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 12:22 pm
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 12:03 pm to
Anyone not flaming can see that 2011 was Chizik holding Gus back during the season.

There is a reason AU rolled up nearly 500 yards in the. Chik fil a bowl a month after being blanked.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 12:07 pm to
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He changes his play calling to fit his players from year to year and depending on how Marshall evolves in the passing game we could see something completely different this year.



I dont think we will change until someone forces Gus to do so. No one could stop this offense last season, no reason to change it. The spring game did not look much different. Looks like Gus did bring back the out route to the sideline that was so deadly in 09 and 10. But the O will be the same, maybe more WRs running routes for the option pass than blocking this year.
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