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re: Will OU be the next Mizzou?
Posted on 8/8/25 at 4:58 pm to SemperFiDawg
Posted on 8/8/25 at 4:58 pm to SemperFiDawg
All six of the blue blood programs have had down periods. They will be just fine
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Posted on 8/8/25 at 4:59 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
Your hatred is delicious... #frickTexas
Posted on 8/8/25 at 5:05 pm to kilo
When was the last time Mizzou won a Natty in Football?
.... We'll wait....
.... We'll wait....
Posted on 8/8/25 at 6:10 pm to bayou85
Lazy analysis. Mizzou & A&M came in with clear schematic and roster advantages. They were built to spread you out on the offensive side of the ball. They were also built to get after the passer. It’s no coincidence that Mizzou & A&M had great sack numbers their first couple seasons and they also moved the ball super efficiently. They were Big12 teams playing against archaic coaching staffs and bloated jumbo rosters.
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Posted on 8/8/25 at 8:32 pm to JayAg
Honestly that is a good comparison..hard to disagree with that.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 8:59 pm to EastTXHorn
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Lazy analysis. Mizzou & A&M came in with clear schematic and roster advantages. They were built to spread you out on the offensive side of the ball. They were also built to get after the passer. It’s no coincidence that Mizzou & A&M had great sack numbers their first couple seasons and they also moved the ball super efficiently. They were Big12 teams playing against archaic coaching staffs and bloated jumbo rosters.
This is accurate. Both of those teams were built to attack a defense from the back end to the front, not front to back.
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Posted on 8/8/25 at 9:34 pm to CharlotteSooner
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This is accurate. Both of those teams were built to attack a defense from the back end to the front, not front to back.
The Big XII back when A&M and Mizzou were in it as a twelve team was a pretty pretty good conference. It was a lot better before 2010 than it was afterwards... and really pretty good until about 2015 when it was pretty much Oklahoma and that was all.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:06 pm to bayou85
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That's a bad comparison. Mizzou came in hot.
The comparison is good. Mizzou went 5-7 in year one in the SEC.
Mizzou 2012
Posted on 8/9/25 at 8:37 am to OKinTX21
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Your conference?? Do you understand that if they had to pick between OU and Mizzou they would pick OU?
Ah.... but they didn't now, did they? Here is why "they" chose Mizzou! I know a lot of people on here don't read very well, so I bolded the main points for them. Y'all should just say thank you to Mizzou.
The SEC (Southeastern Conference) chose to add Missouri in 2011 for several strategic reasons:
1. Expanding the SEC’s Geographic and Media Footprint:
Missouri brought the SEC into the Midwest, expanding its influence beyond the traditional Southeastern U.S. It allowed the SEC to tap into new TV markets, especially in St. Louis and Kansas City, which helped increase the value of the SEC’s media rights.
2. Boosting TV Revenue via the SEC Network:
Adding Missouri helped solidify a broader national footprint, which was critical for the eventual launch of the SEC Network in 2014. Cable providers are more likely to carry a network that serves multiple states and regions, so Missouri helped in that strategy.
3. Stability During Conference Realignment:
Around 2010–2012, college sports saw a wave of conference realignment.
The Big 12 (Missouri's former conference) was seen as unstable at the time, and the SEC saw an opportunity to expand with a academically and athletically strong institution.
4. Missouri’s Academic and Institutional Fit:
Missouri is an AAU member (Association of American Universities), which was seen as a sign of academic prestige. The SEC also liked Missouri’s research profile, aligning with efforts to strengthen the SEC’s academic standing.
5. Competitive Athletic Programs:
Missouri had strong programs in multiple sports, especially in football, basketball, and wrestling. While not traditionally an SEC power, Mizzou has been competitive, winning back-to-back SEC East titles in football (2013, 2014).
Posted on 8/9/25 at 2:20 pm to Mosnowman
1. Nobody cares.
2. Again, nobody cares.
3. If OU and TX were interested at the time, the SEC would have picked them to accomplish this objective over Mizzou.
4. Mizzou’s academic profile is not the game changer here. Sorry.
5. Ah, the feared SEC east of the 2010s. I forgot how terrifying USCe was, how stable Florida was, and how strong pre-Kirby UGA was.
So, yes, in conclusion, as much as it hurts for you to realize: OU is a more valuable brand than Mizzou. More eye balls will watch to see if OU can stay alive this year than tune in to watch Mizzou win 9/10 games with a mid SOS. You didn’t leave the big 12 because you were wanted, you left because you were a doormat and sought a fresh start. Just like A&M did at the same time.
I know it’s hard to come to grips with all of this, especially now that OU and Texas decided to join the SEC. Unfortunately you’ll just need to hang in there and keep telling us about how valuable your AAU status is - we are all certainty so impressed!
2. Again, nobody cares.
3. If OU and TX were interested at the time, the SEC would have picked them to accomplish this objective over Mizzou.
4. Mizzou’s academic profile is not the game changer here. Sorry.
5. Ah, the feared SEC east of the 2010s. I forgot how terrifying USCe was, how stable Florida was, and how strong pre-Kirby UGA was.
So, yes, in conclusion, as much as it hurts for you to realize: OU is a more valuable brand than Mizzou. More eye balls will watch to see if OU can stay alive this year than tune in to watch Mizzou win 9/10 games with a mid SOS. You didn’t leave the big 12 because you were wanted, you left because you were a doormat and sought a fresh start. Just like A&M did at the same time.
I know it’s hard to come to grips with all of this, especially now that OU and Texas decided to join the SEC. Unfortunately you’ll just need to hang in there and keep telling us about how valuable your AAU status is - we are all certainty so impressed!
Posted on 8/9/25 at 2:25 pm to Mosnowman
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Posted on 8/9/25 at 2:28 pm to SemperFiDawg
No, and this is coming from an OSU alum.
Mizzou hasn't won a conference since it had Dan Devine as its coach. OU has been nationally prominent for as long as there has been national prominence.
Mizzou hasn't won a conference since it had Dan Devine as its coach. OU has been nationally prominent for as long as there has been national prominence.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 3:51 pm to Mosnowman
Missou joined the SEC after begging the Big 10 to take them and being rejected by the Big 10. It made the addition of TAMU with Missou an even number for better scheduling options….
Posted on 8/9/25 at 6:46 pm to Mosnowman
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Until OU proves otherwise you are simply another has been program now that we allowed you to join our conference. Cards are in place for you to have a better year so I'm anxiously awaiting your results. Of course it may be a while before you make 2 trips to Atlanta for our conference championship game.
God do I regret rooting for you guys those first few years in the SEC.
You were the same damn team as you were in the Big 12 - fourth best in a good year. Never would have sniffed a Big 12 title game from the southern division or an SEC title game from the western division.
But let’s look at it going forward? Wanna bet which of us will make it to an SEC championship game first?
Posted on 8/9/25 at 9:36 pm to dallastiger55
Texas..they have insane oil money. So I think they are a safe bet...they are a household name and insanely rich.
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:43 am to OKinTX21
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You didn’t leave the big 12 because you were wanted, you left because you were a doormat and sought a fresh start. Just like A&M did at the same time. I know it’s hard to come to grips with all of this, especially now that OU and Texas decided to join the SEC. Unfortunately you’ll just need to hang in there and keep telling us about how valuable your AAU status is - we are all certainty so impressed!
Actually why would we leave the Big 12 if we were a doormat, as you assert, and join a much superior athletic conference?
Interesting how you also parasitically attach yourself to Texas, rather than resting on your past laurels. Texas was the prize for the SEC, not Oklahoma.
SEC had a lot of choices when expanding so I wonder why they offered a membership to the ole Big 12 doormat Mizzou?
I realize I used some big words in my retort to your flawed logic, but that's how academically superior people talk to the remedial kids of OU.
I hope you don't embarrass yourself again this year like last year, and maybe you will someday make it to Atlanta, like we did twice thus far.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:59 am to Mosnowman
What I got out of this is that Missouri is 0-4 in conference title games.
Missouri is also 0-3 when it comes to potential national championships for the program:
1960 - lose to Kansas at the end of regular season. Missouri later got the loss turned into a win due to KU player ineligibility but the damage had been done and Missouri misses out on national title.
2007 - perhaps the best team in the nation. A rematch win over Oklahoma and whoever they faced in the BCS title game would be a sure win for the Tigers. But perhaps the most excruciating loss for the program to OU derailed their crystal ball dreams.
2013 - a win over Auburn in Atlanta would have set up a showdown against FSU. Perhaps a long shot against that offense but they would have had an opportunity.
Missouri is also 0-3 when it comes to potential national championships for the program:
1960 - lose to Kansas at the end of regular season. Missouri later got the loss turned into a win due to KU player ineligibility but the damage had been done and Missouri misses out on national title.
2007 - perhaps the best team in the nation. A rematch win over Oklahoma and whoever they faced in the BCS title game would be a sure win for the Tigers. But perhaps the most excruciating loss for the program to OU derailed their crystal ball dreams.
2013 - a win over Auburn in Atlanta would have set up a showdown against FSU. Perhaps a long shot against that offense but they would have had an opportunity.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:36 am to Oklahomey
If that is your take away from my retort, then it becomes quite obvious you didn't comprehend much. If you would have gone to Mizzou perhaps you would have learned more?
Hope you all get more than a couple wins this year after the disaster of a start as a rookie member in our conference. SEC isn't the Big 12, so best put on your big girl panties.
Hope you all get more than a couple wins this year after the disaster of a start as a rookie member in our conference. SEC isn't the Big 12, so best put on your big girl panties.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:40 am to SemperFiDawg
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Due to the lack of "splash" in their initial year in the SEC does OU run the risk being seen in the same light as Mizzou.
Then, Oklahoma can show them their trophy case, which should snap Dawg fans back to reality.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:44 am to Gatorbait2008
How does it feel to be .500 against an “insanely low’ program ?
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