re: Will history repeat itself in Tuscaloosa?

Nick Saban began talk of this retirement a few years back and the discussion was kept in a tight circle that included Greg Byrne and Stuart Bell. That is why less than 48 hours after Saban made headlines a new coach was in place with complete control over his team.

Bear Bryant wanted nothing to do with choosing his replacement. Partially due to his illness. Saban was asked to advise and they listened intnntly to the advice. What he told them was most important was to find the guy and give him the kind of control of football operations he had or that a new guy would not have a chance. Ray Perkins was not given this when he took over the program from Bear even though he had been an NFL head coach. Neither was Curry who followed.

The folks involved knew that this would lead to short term pain as the players not only lost Saban as Head Coach but the position coaches with who they were familiar. DeBoer wanted his WR guy so Holman Wiggins, who was lead on more five stars than any other assistant, departed and most of the five star guys who hit the portal were his.

Deboer may not be a guy who can keep Bama toward the top. But they are giving him a real shot under his circumstance. And his players love him. Michael Penix called Ryan Williams to help recruit him to play for Deboer at Alabama.

Yes, he lost to Michigan. But he is also 5-0 against Texas and Oregon even though both had superior depth and talent to his Husky squad. He took a team with four wins before he got there to 11 and 14 win seasons. Unlike Saban he is not afraid to build through the portal if need be.

In a few years, fans of other teams may not be laughing as they are now.

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It was Washington’s QB that took them to the playoffs. Not DeBore


So it was Stetson that won uga titles not Kirby? Kirby has 0 titles without IV, right?

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In a few years, fans of other teams may not be laughing as they are now.

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Come on dude. He was 12-6 at Fresno St. Without Penix they lose 4 games.
They didn’t score an offense TD against a 3-9 Arizona St team and almost lost.
His end of game clock managing was horrific at times. He was totally out-coached against Michigan and brought in a team who was confused and not prepared then took a beat down in the biggest game of his career. This guy is the one replacing Nick Saban? I get it you’re a Bama fan and I understand your hope. However there’s a reason so many players left the program after meeting with him. Have you heard the guy in interviews? Bama will be good but not great and this experiment will be over in three years and you know it.

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Sounds like a ton of wish casting from another broke by Bama corn dog

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Nah just reality and you’re all too stunned to even see it.

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Man are you really this clueless?
That exactly what I’m saying, two 10 win seasons over a 7 year period before Saban.

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They only played 10 regular season games and a bowl game previous to 1992 when the SEECG was introduced.

Winning 10 games prior to 1992 meant you only lost 1 game. Naturally, 10 win seasons were harder to come by when you only had 11 games to win 10. This argument is as stupid as you are myopic.

It's easy to pick out a specific point in time to back up your point.
So BAMA has had 2 GOATS as HC.

Lsu has avg'd 6.2 wins in their entire football history over 130 years.
Taking out the wins by Bryant and Saban at BAMA, BAMA has avg'd 6.12 wins per year since 1892. So yeah, without Bryant and Saban lsu and BAMA are similar, but it took Saban at lsu to help make that so.

Without Skip Bertman, Smoke Laval, Paul Mainieri, Jay Johnson, BAMA baseball and lsu baseball are the same, right?

Hell, BAMA has 40 more wins all-time in baseball than lsu as it is right now.

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Bama still owns LSU 28-19-5 without Bear or Saban coaching Bama.

28 is not “basically” equal to 19.

28 > 19

You are dumber than a rock.

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That's really not that great considering Alabama was a blue blood and LSU wasn't even seriously funding the football program pre 2000.

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Bama still owns LSU 28-19-5 without Bear or Saban coaching Bama.

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Speaking of dumb. From the beginning I’ve said records in between Bear and Saban not the 1920’s

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That's really not that great considering Alabama was a blue blood and LSU wasn't even seriously funding the football program pre 2000.

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Greatness wasn’t the argument in this thread, right? Billyboy is having trouble understanding numbers, and what is equal and what is not.

And thanks for the further LSU affirmation that CFB didn’t start until 2000.

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Come on dude. He was 12-6 at Fresno St. Without Penix they lose 4 games.
They didn’t score an offense TD against a 3-9 Arizona St team and almost lost.
His end of game clock managing was horrific at times. He was totally out-coached against Michigan and brought in a team who was confused and not prepared then took a beat down in the biggest game of his career. This guy is the one replacing Nick Saban? I get it you’re a Bama fan and I understand your hope. However there’s a reason so many players left the program after meeting with him. Have you heard the guy in interviews? Bama will be good but not great and this experiment will be over in three years and you know it.

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I did not say there was not risk but folks a lot smarter about football than you or I had Deboer on their radar. Two guys who had head coach jobs agreed to take a step back and join his staff. I watched as they did this wrong previous and tried to hold on to the old. He has some recruiting muscle for the first time and the lure of playing at Alabama to get better players than he ever had in his previous jobs, He brought Washington to a national championship and even though he lost that one big he got there and beat Texas once and Oregon twice in the process. Penix believes so strongly in Deboer he called Ryan Williams to help recruit him back to Bama for Deboer. His next big QB at Washington followed Deboer to Alabama to wait a year behind Milroe even though Mack could have started for someone next year.

It was a risk no matter who they hired but I trust Greg Byrne and Nick Saban that Deboer brings the best odds.

By your nutty baseball comments I assume that you must be an older gentleman?
Every single point I’ve made has gone a thousand feet over your head sir.

It’s not even worth attempting to enlighten you.
Sorry