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Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:59 am to FearlessFreep
quote:We also blew out almost everyone that we played. So there's that...
UGa played only three games against opponents with 9 or more wins during the regular season and went 2-1. In contrast, AU in 2010 played five such games and won all of them, and 2012 also UF played five and finished 4-1.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 12:06 pm to nicholastiger
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Smart had it easy this year, East is getting more competitive.
the east is getting better in the sense that the doofuses mcelwain and jones aren't in it anymore, but Kirby is basically lapping the field as it relates to recruiting. As of right NOW (in other words, the others will surely add some players over the next 2 months, but UGA will add a handful of 5* players as well, as soon as tomorrow), in this '18 class...
UGA: 3 5*, 9 4*...272 points
SC: 0 5*, 5 4*...219 points
UF: 0 5*, 6 4*...203 points
UT: 0 5*, 3 4*...171 points
We already have an advantage talent wise over every other team in the east, and this signing class is only going to widen that gap.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 12:09 pm to TearsofKnowshon
quote:Much higher?
Recruiting at a much higher level.
Auburn had some highly, highly ranked classes with Gene Chizik. Problem was, the talent wasn’t developed if it was there, and in some cases the talent wasn’t as good as ranked by recruiting sites.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 12:11 pm to TTsTowel
Yes. Much higher.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 12:24 pm to TTsTowel
It is ALL about the players. I would think that almost every coach in the SEC would win with the talent Saban has with maybe the exception of Les Miles. Saban was not a great coach until he got in a position of having more talent than anybody he played.It does not take as much coaching to coach up a 5* or 4*. It take a lot more work to coach up a 3* or 2*. Georgia is the state school in a state with a lot of talent. Also a fan base that will do what it takes to get a player. Kirby will do great if he continues to get the talent. Muschamp missed oh the QB and Chizik missed on the QB. You can not win without that position. Saban has been able to win without great QB's because he has more talent than his opponents.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 1:17 pm to emoryman
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Georgia is the state school in a state with a lot of talent. Also a fan base that will do what it takes to get a player.
hmm that gif might be too dirty?
This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 12/19/17 at 1:48 pm to TTsTowel
quote:Yes, much higher.
Much higher?
Auburn had some highly, highly ranked classes with Gene Chizik. Problem was, the talent wasn’t developed if it was there, and in some cases the talent wasn’t as good as ranked by recruiting sites.
In regards to player development, we've turned our weakest link (OLine) into a strength in one season and our receivers--who couldn't catch a cold last season--have been making highlight reel catches this year. We even saw the development of a DB-turned-WR in Hardman over the course of this season; from dropping easy passes at the beginning to making hard ones at the end.
Our TrFr QB has grown by strides this year and our special teams unit hasn't been this good and consistent in a long time. Our kicker could barely kick the ball into the EZ last year and this year he broke a school record in touch backs.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 2:25 pm to FooManChoo
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Yet... we may still get a chance
Abba-so-lutely! Would love it!
Posted on 12/19/17 at 2:29 pm to TTsTowel
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Auburn had some highly, highly ranked classes with Gene Chizik. Problem was, the talent wasn’t developed if it was there, and in some cases the talent wasn’t as good as ranked by recruiting sites.
It's crazy. What's better? A coach that can't recruit well, but is good at developing his talent? Or a coach who recruits lights out but can't develop it when it gets there?
Hopefully, Kirby can do both. But, we all need to wait and see. It appears as if he can do both. We should know more next year. For now? I am going to enjoy this year, though.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 2:38 pm to PorkSammich
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Why will Kirby be any different than Muschamp and Chizik?
Kirby got his team in the playoffs. Have a downvote.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:39 pm to PorkSammich
Maybe he's a better coach than Gus and Cheezit.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 6:14 pm to ljhog
I don't understand why people think Kirby would be the same as Champ and Gus.
Very different personality.
Very different background.
He has a story to sell kids (in-state kid who became all-sec at his in-state school: 10 year apprentice to the best coach ever; championship pedigree as a coach at Valdosta state, lsu, Georgia (2005), and bama. Has already broken the West stranglehold on the CCG).
Very different personality.
Very different background.
He has a story to sell kids (in-state kid who became all-sec at his in-state school: 10 year apprentice to the best coach ever; championship pedigree as a coach at Valdosta state, lsu, Georgia (2005), and bama. Has already broken the West stranglehold on the CCG).
Posted on 12/19/17 at 10:53 pm to meansonny
They don't think he's the same as Chizik and Muschamp, they just hope that is the case. And they are likely wrong.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:04 pm to armtackledawg
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Muschamp is holding serve at best in recruiting. It is not his fault, he works hard. But his classes are nowhere near what they need to be to get to the top.
Not yet they're not ... but he's working on that. If he finishes with a Top 15 class this year, and it appears that he will ... his 2019 class will be Top 10. After that it's all about what he does with this class and the next. He's got a solid foundation of blue collar players right now ... 70% of this team are freshmen and sophomores. They'll help to instill a work ethic and will help to recruit for a couple more years.
Boom is in a good place right now. He just needs to keep showing improvement and he needs to keep this staff intact as long as possible. Oh, and as previously mentioned, this OC hire needs to be a really good one.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:16 pm to lowspark12
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he was a significantly better and more consistent DC than either chizik or muschamp.
Eh.
I would take Muschamp as a DC over anybody. And don't act like Chizik wasn't annually over elite defenses either.
And let's be honest. Smart was the DC at Bama in title. But we all know who was calling the plays on game day, and who was drawing up the schemes and game plans on a weekly basis, and who the recruits were signing up to be coached by.
And when you have the level of talent and depth that Bama does on Defense in the Saban era... With a Grand Canyon sized gap in the talent department between you and 95% of your opponents... It makes your job just a wee bit easier.
At least Muschamp got out from under Saban's shadow to prove that he is an elite defensive coach under any circumstances.
Smart will make a much better HC than the latest Saban puppet to branch out, Pruitt... But Smart still has some proving to do IMO
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:17 pm to WG_Dawg
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UGA: 3 5*, 9 4*...272 points
SC: 0 5*, 5 4*...219 points
UF: 0 5*, 6 4*...203 points
UT: 0 5*, 3 4*...171 points
We already have an advantage talent wise over every other team in the east, and this signing class is only going to widen that gap.
It would appear so ... time will tell.
Here's the thing.
UGA has, for quite some time, had a talent advantage over 12 of the 14 teams in the league ... at least according to the recruiting services. Something like an average Top 5 class for the past 15 years.
Yet, until this season it hasn't really paid off in a big way.
Kirby is a good coach and he's assembled a solid staff. Y'all lose a lot after this year though.
The gaps are not as wide as they might appear, come next year, imho.
Often times it has just as much to do with age and experience as it does with HS star ratings. Your team, for the most part, was very experienced this year. You had some very key players return for another season. Is this true or not?
The gap is not as wide as you think IMHO.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:20 pm to scrooster
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If he finishes with a Top 15 class this year, and it appears that he will ... his 2019 class will be Top 10.
In what world does this make any sense?
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:23 pm to BowlJackson
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But we all know who was calling the plays on game day, and who was drawing up the schemes and game plans on a weekly basis, and who the recruits were signing up to be coached by.
Sure
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Smart still has some proving to do IMO
Yes, he has proven he can win the SEC in dominating fashion and make the playoff. Now he needs to prove he can win the playoff. Thats it, right?
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:27 pm to Rabern57
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Uga is more forgiving than the other schools. They will tolerate at 10 win coaches for years.
Gus went 8-5, 7-6, and 8-5 three years in a row. His "comeback" year saw him beat both his rivals handily, only to get his shite rocked in the SECCG by said rival.
He got an extension...
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