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re: Why is there a playoff committee to begin with?
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:05 am to Syd
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:05 am to Syd
quote:It'll be intersting to see how BCS and CFP rankings compare after this weekend's games. My guess is that the top four will be the same.
What will the BCS look like after all the teams win their conference and get those added percentage points?
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 10:06 am
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:05 am to VABuckeye
I hope Ohio State gets in, I think being 11-1, not able to win your division, but still getting in the playoffs will help Bama down the road.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:06 am to CrimsonCrusade
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People always slammed the computers due to pure ignorance
Nope. Slammed due to intelligence
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We need a human touch
Human's load the data
If computers were so great how did they have such disparity across the different ones?
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:06 am to StarsFan21
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Couldn't the BCS computers be used and just a four team playoff added?
I said that from the beginning, don't understand it at all (it was originally all the people complaining about Bama getting in without winning their division I think, but OSU gets that benefit this year).
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:10 am to OldPete
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I think the worst was in 2001 when Miami trounced Nebraska
At least it was exciting with TDs being scored, instead of another defensive struggle between LSU and Alabama with a bunch of field goals.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:11 am to VABuckeye
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Let's not forget the other part of the equation. 59-0. If Ohio State didn't win that game in such dominating fashion they would not have been in the playoff.
If Penn State somehow comes out and does that kind of beatdown, Washington and Clemson both win, I think OSU should be left out this year.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:39 am to Sneaky__Sally
There should not be anything wrong with two teams from the same conference being in a playoff if they are the best two teams. 2008 playoff would have been Oklahoma, Florida, Alabama, and Texas. Those were the 4 best teams in the country that year.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:41 am to StarsFan21
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Couldn't the BCS computers be used and just a four team playoff added?
Yes the BCS rankings would have worked just fine in taking the top 4 IMO.
However they wanted a clean slate and to get away from all the bad PR and bad blood the BCS had created.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:45 am to Sneaky__Sally
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If Penn State somehow comes out and does that kind of beatdown, Washington and Clemson both win, I think OSU should be left out this year.
I agree, plus I don't think OSU is really that good. They have played too many teams down to the wire to be considered a great team. They've had like 4 OT's this year. PSU seems to have really improved their last 5-6 games.
And yes, the BCS formula was just as good or better than this committee.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 6:56 am
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:52 am to JesusQuintana
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You win X, you are in. You don't, you are not. Which is virtually impossible with the current setup of conferences, which is why the playoff has no place in CFB
Well, that part is wishful bullshite. There is no variable X that is comparable for all teams. All conferences aren't created equal, and they will likely never be eliminated. Even if they didn't exist, there is still no X.
Should have just left the BCS alone, or expanded it to four teams.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 10:54 am
Posted on 11/30/16 at 11:02 am to BHMKyle
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UGA has nothing to do with this. If the issue is "winning games" then try beating LSU in your home stadium in 2011 if you don't want criticism.
The fact that the game had already been played... In Tuscaloosa for that matter... should have precluded everyone from having to see it again. Even if Bama was the better team, the BCS essentially rendered the regular season irrelevant by putting Bama into that game.
Funny, BAMA got the ring to prove that they were the best team that year and definitely deserved to be in that game. You actually believe that OkieState was a better team than 2011 BAMA? It really does not surprise me that a UGA fan cannot see the difference... When was the last time you even sniffed excellance? 1980s?
Posted on 11/30/16 at 11:17 am to Boomer00
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There should not be anything wrong with two teams from the same conference being in a playoff if they are the best two teams
The thing's wrong with that is there's no way to determine which teams are the best with out playing games - and even then people cry about the best team not winning.
I swear sometimes we should just go back to the pre-BCS/Alliance days when a bunch of people just voted on who they all thought the best team was and awarded them the trophy. It's not that different from today.
Either scrap opinion polls altogether and have a tournament of 8 conference champions, or just vote after the bowl games on who looks like the best team.
One is objective, the other is subjective. They should quit trying to make a subjective selection look objective.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:05 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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At least it was exciting with TDs being scored, instead of another defensive struggle between LSU and Alabama with a bunch of field goals.
Dude, I watched that game, and there was nothing exciting 'bout it...I changed channels before halftime as it was clear the game was over. The Bama-LSU game wasn't a barn-burner by any stretch, but at least the outcome wasn't determined before halftime...
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:06 pm to StarsFan21
Because everyone thinks their opinion is the only one nowadays.
all these people are more concerned with being apart of the committee than getting the best teams in.
all these people are more concerned with being apart of the committee than getting the best teams in.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:10 pm to JesusQuintana
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If we are going to have a playoff, I don't like the BCS formula either. There needs to be set parameters on how you make it in.
...like strength of schedule and quality wins? It had that. They can keep the committee to decide the top 4 out of the top 6, just let the BCS formula pick the top 6.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:12 pm to StarsFan21
I agree, I didn't think anything was wrong with the last system. I do like the playoff though, I wish it could be expanded to 8 teams though
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:14 pm to Nado Jenkins83
The fact that Penn St could win the Big 10, having beat Ohio State, and still get passed over in favor of Ohio State is beyond ridiculous.
It needs to expand to 8 with 5 Power 5 Champs, best Group of 5 champ, and the next 2 highest ranked teams. It would solve all of the BS issues with the current system:
- one or more of the Power 5 champs being left out every year
- wouldn't be an issue to have 2 teams from the same conference in the playoffs
- gives a rep from the Group of 5 a chance at proving they can win it all
It needs to expand to 8 with 5 Power 5 Champs, best Group of 5 champ, and the next 2 highest ranked teams. It would solve all of the BS issues with the current system:
- one or more of the Power 5 champs being left out every year
- wouldn't be an issue to have 2 teams from the same conference in the playoffs
- gives a rep from the Group of 5 a chance at proving they can win it all
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:14 pm to bama1959
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:15 pm to GamerAg
i agree.
Im in the camp that says either you win your conference or they need to can the championship games.
its stupid and not logical
Im in the camp that says either you win your conference or they need to can the championship games.
its stupid and not logical
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:34 pm to JesusQuintana
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There needs to be set parameters on how you make it in.
win and you're in!
it's catchy, and works, unless you are Western Michigan
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