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re: Why is the B1G considered so relevant?
Posted on 8/4/23 at 9:20 pm to Cheese Grits
Posted on 8/4/23 at 9:20 pm to Cheese Grits
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B1G has eyeballs
SEC has product
This is the correct answer.
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 9:27 pm to deltaland
People watch their games. And they were not run by an incompetent POS like Mike "Follower" Slive (gcg)so they did innovation thing like their own network.
Once they got the biggest TV contact they can keep demanding it.
Now the SEC is run by an inept moron like Sankey and we are fricked.
Once they got the biggest TV contact they can keep demanding it.
Now the SEC is run by an inept moron like Sankey and we are fricked.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 9:30 pm to CaptainBrannigan
At some point results matter….
You can only trade on pre-Cold War success for so long.
You can only trade on pre-Cold War success for so long.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 10:33 pm to Pulpwood Patterson
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At some point results matter
Viewers are the results.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 10:41 pm to CaptainBrannigan
They're not.
A lot of the media are northeast blowhards who pretend they are relevant though.
Notre dame got in the playoff after getting completely blown out they day before. Says it all.
A lot of the media are northeast blowhards who pretend they are relevant though.
Notre dame got in the playoff after getting completely blown out they day before. Says it all.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 10:52 pm to deltaland
Because they dominate the Yankee market which holds most major networks.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 12:17 am to Texas Aggy
Big Ten schools are gigantic schools. Good schools with rich alumni.
Maybe they aren't as rabid about college football as the South, but they don't need to be to have sway for TV contracts, which are frankly better than the SEC's.
Maybe they aren't as rabid about college football as the South, but they don't need to be to have sway for TV contracts, which are frankly better than the SEC's.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 12:20 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Mississippi St. Fan
I've always been baffled by this kind of comment. Even fans of bad teams still can see the truth about the conference as a whole. We all win when other SEC teams win championships. And the Mississippi schools account for 2 championships in the past 3 years. That's pretty damn successful.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 1:09 am to Tarpon08
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Put a 0 next to Pac 12 in Football. 2004 USC is Vacated just like LSU’s 2015 Texas Bowl.
Thinking about this more—doesn’t the SEC get to claim this one
Either Oklahoma or Auburn would have won it in 2004 if USC had been disqualified at the time instead of in arrears.
Which would retroactively make our streak ten years:
2003 — LSU
2004 — OU/Auburn
2005 — Texas
2006 — Florida
2007 — LSU
2008 — Florida
2009 — Alabama
2010 — Auburn
2011 — Alabama
2012 — Alabama
shite, if we poach FSU and Clemson, the streak goes to 11 and we get another one from 2015-present
Posted on 8/5/23 at 1:16 am to deltaland
The thinking is that eventually having a larger viewer base with more money translates to more money for the schools for enough time to overcome facilities and recruiting gaps with the SEC.
The facilities I can see; I’m not even sure that the Ohio States and Michigans of the B1G are behind, but if they are, that’s solely a matter of money, and they are making more than us. Recruiting, I’m less sure. Money is going to matter way more than any of us want. But TV money isn’t the only money, and there’s a realistic ceiling on money you can throw at recruits even if you have more of it than the other guy. And the SEC has all the other built-in advantages still.
The facilities I can see; I’m not even sure that the Ohio States and Michigans of the B1G are behind, but if they are, that’s solely a matter of money, and they are making more than us. Recruiting, I’m less sure. Money is going to matter way more than any of us want. But TV money isn’t the only money, and there’s a realistic ceiling on money you can throw at recruits even if you have more of it than the other guy. And the SEC has all the other built-in advantages still.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 5:30 am to deltaland
Sadly, as others have said, this one is easy. The SEC sells the steak, the Big10 sells the sizzle. It doesn't matter if they've under performed in a massive way. They've got the fans that they will still be pushed to the moon.
While the money may be good (but wait until the travel fees start to add up) I suspect some of the PAC-12 teams that jumped ship are going to have COVID level crowds once the newness wears off and you've got Rutgers coming into town late in the season. We know the LA schools rarely draw a decent crowd as is.
While the money may be good (but wait until the travel fees start to add up) I suspect some of the PAC-12 teams that jumped ship are going to have COVID level crowds once the newness wears off and you've got Rutgers coming into town late in the season. We know the LA schools rarely draw a decent crowd as is.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 6:16 am to deltaland
I’m sorry , but if you’re going to list baseball you might as well list all the other sports. I’m sorry for the 4 schools in this conference that make money in baseball that want to stand on their soap box and scream it’s a “BIG” sport. It is in your town, but it is not nationally. There are only 2 , not just nationally; but SEC generating sports. Those are Football and Men’s Basketball (barely). It’s the truth and that’s what realignment is all about, revenue. I can promise you when they are talking TV deal , they networks aren’t saying we’ll pay you X dollars to be able to show a Thursday night game of the week on our streaming platform. It’s more like we will but these sports on the digital platform for you, but it will cost you this amount.
Now to your point of being relevant; basically has to do with National brand recognition; and for the most part that means football in this country. They were discussing this on of the XM sports channels, yesterday. They made a valid point, there aren’t Power conferences; there are Power programs. This whole consolidation in to 3 leagues; will at some point be a re division Inc into 2- 3 additional levels of college Football.
I hate to break it to you, but some of the current SEC programs Probably won’t make the cut if it’s 40 teams in the top level.
Now to your point of being relevant; basically has to do with National brand recognition; and for the most part that means football in this country. They were discussing this on of the XM sports channels, yesterday. They made a valid point, there aren’t Power conferences; there are Power programs. This whole consolidation in to 3 leagues; will at some point be a re division Inc into 2- 3 additional levels of college Football.
I hate to break it to you, but some of the current SEC programs Probably won’t make the cut if it’s 40 teams in the top level.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 6:34 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
He has an opinion.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:13 am to PerrillouxToTexas
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Because national championships don't really move the needle.
It is why you play the game.
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Michigan, Ohio State, USC are S-tier brands.
I think you are over-estimating these teams. Yes the Big Ten has most of the population centers, but those centers are focused on pro sports not college
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:43 am to Tarpon08
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2004 USC is Vacated just like LSU’s 2015 Texas Bowl.
2004 USC were still AP national champions and that trophy was was never vacated.
It's very similar to the 1974 Oklahoma Sooners who were on probation, couldn't play in the postseason, or be ranked in the Coaches Poll. They finished 11-0 and #1 in the AP that season.
Same thing happened to Auburn in 1957. They were undefeated, on probation, couldn't be ranked in the Coaches Poll, but still finished the season as AP national champions.
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 7:45 am
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:55 am to 3rddownonthe8
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I’m sorry for the 4 schools in this conference that make money in baseball
Sorry for making money
Posted on 8/5/23 at 9:22 am to cbi8
Doesn’t make baseball a Big anything, except to those 4 schools!
Posted on 8/5/23 at 9:24 am to Texas Aggy
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They're not.
A lot of the media are northeast blowhards who pretend they are relevant though.
Notre dame got in the playoff after getting completely blown out they day before. Says it all.
To be fair, there was no better option for the 4th team.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 9:36 am to TideFaninFl
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It is why you play the game.
The coaches, players, fans, sure.
The man signing those fat conference checks only cares about how many people will see the hour of ads he runs during the game.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 9:40 am to deltaland
More population and larger cities than the south, it’s not rocket science.
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