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Posted on 6/9/13 at 11:00 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Petrino had a hard on for Arizona kids
I was a little off after looking at our roster, but my point was we never have had issues recruiting Texas.
As I said, my concern as an Arkansas fan is how our strong hold on east Oklahoma kids will be if OU decides they need to start pressing for some of those if they lose out of Texas kids.
I was a little off after looking at our roster, but my point was we never have had issues recruiting Texas.
As I said, my concern as an Arkansas fan is how our strong hold on east Oklahoma kids will be if OU decides they need to start pressing for some of those if they lose out of Texas kids.
Posted on 6/9/13 at 11:02 pm to Hawgeye
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I was a little off after looking at our roster, but my point was we never have had issues recruiting Texas.
But you haven't really proven this despite continuing to state it. Again, it may have been a strange and short recruiting year with a new coach but you signed 3 in '13 and you're here stating that half the roster is Texas kids. Again, you just state absolutes, don't support them, and then you're proven wrong by other people.
Posted on 6/9/13 at 11:11 pm to Tiger Authority
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But you haven't really proven this despite continuing to state it. Again, it may have been a strange and short recruiting year
What is there to prove? If you werent lazy, you could look at the play makers we have had the last 4 years to see where they are from, Texas.
Ryan Mallett, Cobi Hamilton, Travis Swanson, Knile Davis, Tevin Mitchell, Ross Rasner, Will Hines, Jonathan Williams, Isaac Madsion, Tramain Thomas....are just some of the ones I can think of off the top of my head that we have gotten from Texas the last few years.
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Posted on 6/9/13 at 11:16 pm to Hawgeye
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I was a little off after looking at our roster, but my point was we never have had issues recruiting Texas.
there are 34 four or five star TX kids per 247 composite in '14. Something like 13 remain uncommitted. You have no commits and as far as I know you are not in on any of the uncommitted kids. You are a total non-factor in the top tier and it's been that way as long as I can remember - even back to the late SWC days.
I guess if your argument is you don't have an issue pulling a couple 3*s and the like per year out of Texas, how can I argue with that. Personally I'd say that's pretty shitty but I don't see Arkansas as a midmajor. Maybe you do
Posted on 6/9/13 at 11:19 pm to Hawgeye
I don't ever remember battling arky for a specific somewhat big name Texas recruit...ever...or at least in the Internet era...just saying
Posted on 6/9/13 at 11:33 pm to aggiegreg93
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I don't ever remember battling arky for a specific somewhat big name Texas recruit...ever...or at least in the Internet era...just saying
Its happened plenty. Here are a few
Texas A&M offer
Texas offer
Texas A&M offer
Texas A&M offer
Texas A&M offer
Texas A&M offer
Posted on 6/9/13 at 11:35 pm to aggiegreg93
This is a pointless thread.
Getting some strange is what did Arky in.
I hope your new coach does well.
Getting some strange is what did Arky in.
I hope your new coach does well.
Posted on 6/9/13 at 11:43 pm to TwelfthMan
The Piggy's ex-coach already ruined their recruiting program. What more can the Aggies do? 
Posted on 6/10/13 at 12:16 am to Palooza11
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'the sleeping giant has woken'
think highly of yourself do you? lot's of people woken you know.
Posted on 6/10/13 at 12:18 am to TeLeFaWx
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I don't think it will have any worse effect than your Big Ten coach.
You do realize Saban was a Big Ten coach, right?
Posted on 6/10/13 at 12:19 am to Hawgeye
How many games a year did Arkansas play in the state of Texas while a member of the SWC?
Posted on 6/10/13 at 12:19 am to Drewbie
Uh gee, I don't know! Maybe because you now have to compete with an instate SEC team
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Posted on 6/10/13 at 12:50 am to LSUNV
I think A&M being in the SEC might have little effect on Arkansas being able to pull the biggest stars. I think A&M and UTx will pull most, with some raiding by LSU and Bama.
But I think Arkansas can start winning a lot of battles for the high-3* and low-4* recruits that are going to OSU, Baylor, TCU etc. Maybe even displacing OU. Pigs need to bounce back record-wise for that to happen, though.
But I think Arkansas can start winning a lot of battles for the high-3* and low-4* recruits that are going to OSU, Baylor, TCU etc. Maybe even displacing OU. Pigs need to bounce back record-wise for that to happen, though.
Posted on 6/10/13 at 8:47 am to Hawgeye
None of the recruits you listed are from when A&M announced to the SEC.
Arky will do well though with 3 Star type kids that live in NE Texas or Dallas. Arky has a strong argument against Baylor, OSU, etc. as an option. I would be shocked if Arky wins more than the occasional recruiting battle with A&M going forward though and that will likely be a special circumstance (ie he is from Texarkana or has family ties to Arky).
That really isn't a bad thing though. Arky will do better for that 2nd Tier and the 2nd Tier in Texas produces some great players (many who end up much better than the 1st Tier). Essentially Texas and A&M will get the lion's share. LSU will get a few and Bama will likely get a couple. After that it puts Arky in with OU/OSU/Baylor/TCU/Tech to try to get a 1st Tier guy or maybe two but primarily compete for the 70 or so 2nd Tier (3 Star type) guys. Nothing wrong with that except Arky is in the same division with A&M, LSU, and Bama which are going to be loaded with 1st Tier as well as Ole Miss and Auburn which will likely beat them in recruiting as well.
There is a ton of Texas talent to go around because you not only have the volume but you have such a strong commitment at the Jr High and HS level to the sport. The big HS's in Texas have better facilities than some small colleges.
Arky will do well though with 3 Star type kids that live in NE Texas or Dallas. Arky has a strong argument against Baylor, OSU, etc. as an option. I would be shocked if Arky wins more than the occasional recruiting battle with A&M going forward though and that will likely be a special circumstance (ie he is from Texarkana or has family ties to Arky).
That really isn't a bad thing though. Arky will do better for that 2nd Tier and the 2nd Tier in Texas produces some great players (many who end up much better than the 1st Tier). Essentially Texas and A&M will get the lion's share. LSU will get a few and Bama will likely get a couple. After that it puts Arky in with OU/OSU/Baylor/TCU/Tech to try to get a 1st Tier guy or maybe two but primarily compete for the 70 or so 2nd Tier (3 Star type) guys. Nothing wrong with that except Arky is in the same division with A&M, LSU, and Bama which are going to be loaded with 1st Tier as well as Ole Miss and Auburn which will likely beat them in recruiting as well.
There is a ton of Texas talent to go around because you not only have the volume but you have such a strong commitment at the Jr High and HS level to the sport. The big HS's in Texas have better facilities than some small colleges.
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:48 am to aggressor
When exactly has aTm been above a 2nd tier program?
For a few short years in the late 80s, still couldn't beat Arkansas, and in the 90s after Arkansas left the SWC? That is pretty much it.
But you have a 3rd place finish in the SEC-West and are all the sudden first tier? Only using aggy logic.
For a few short years in the late 80s, still couldn't beat Arkansas, and in the 90s after Arkansas left the SWC? That is pretty much it.
But you have a 3rd place finish in the SEC-West and are all the sudden first tier? Only using aggy logic.
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:50 am to Hawgeye
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Aggy leaving for the SEC hurts Oklahoma. OU has never recruited its own state that hard. It's always been Texas kids.
This is a common misconception.
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:52 am to DaleDenton
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When exactly has aTm been above a 2nd tier program?
For a few short years in the late 80s, still couldn't beat Arkansas, and in the 90s after Arkansas left the SWC? That is pretty much it.
But you have a 3rd place finish in the SEC-West and are all the sudden first tier? Only using aggy logic.
Couldn't beat Arkansas? Our record against you in the 90s was almost as dominant as our record agaisnt LSU. And we were having 10 win seasons left and right in the 90s, and even went undefeated one season. Has Arky ever gone undefeated without Jerry Jones playing guard?
Posted on 6/10/13 at 10:56 am to TeLeFaWx
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And we were having 10 win seasons left and right in the 90s, and even went undefeated one season
Yes, you dominated the SWC after Arkansas left and Texas was down. At least SMU was able to do so with a strong Arkansas and Texas programs at that time.
Aggys notable contributions in "first tier" Texas recruiting consists of buying Eric Dickerson a shiny gold Trans Am to drive during his time at SMU and paying for the hookers Craig James killed in that hotel room...
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