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re: Why is the addition of aTm going to ruin Arkansas' recruiting in Texas?
Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:21 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:21 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Good deal. Why?
Because it is my opinion among other things. They went 10-3 last year. I certainly don't think that is indicative of a sinking ship, even if it wasn't a great year for them and ended in a beatdown.
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Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:21 pm to Tiger Authority
Aggy leaving for the SEC hurts Oklahoma. OU has never recruited its own state that hard. It's always been Texas kids.
With the SEC having a foot hold in Texas now, they see Arkansas again. They see LSU every weekend. They pay attention. Texas AM, Arkansas, and LSU have an opportunity to get in on recruits that may have went to OU 10 years ago.
Arkansas recruits the Tulsa area well. Oklahoma has always neglected the area in leau of Texas kids.
With the SEC having a foot hold in Texas now, they see Arkansas again. They see LSU every weekend. They pay attention. Texas AM, Arkansas, and LSU have an opportunity to get in on recruits that may have went to OU 10 years ago.
Arkansas recruits the Tulsa area well. Oklahoma has always neglected the area in leau of Texas kids.
Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:22 pm to Hawgeye
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With the SEC having a foot hold in Texas now, they see Arkansas again. They see LSU every weekend. They pay attention. Texas AM, Arkansas, and LSU have an opportunity to get in on recruits that may have went to OU 10 years ago.
LSU recruiting in Texas has nothing to do with aTm coming to the SEC.
Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:24 pm to Tiger Authority
It will going forward. Texas AM being in the SEC opens up that entire state, not just a small portion where LSU used to pluck an athlete here or there.
Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:25 pm to Hawgeye
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It will going forward. Texas AM being in the SEC opens up that entire state, not just a small portion where LSU used to pluck an athlete here or there.
Again, LSU's influence and recruiting in Texas isn't more or less expansive because of aTm coming to the SEC. We'll recruit the state the same way we always have. You can convince yourself that this will allow Arkansas to go in there and do great things but it won't. It will be largely the same.
Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:29 pm to agswin
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I think it will help Arkansas, now that A&M is in the same conference. It will also help LSU and other SEC teams
I think it will help Arkansas but I'm not sure it helps LSU. Before A&M joined the conference LSU was probably the main SEC option for guys from eastern Texas.
Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:30 pm to Tiger Authority
Arkansas has always recruited Texas well.
You're being very short sighted here. Texas is a huge state.
It's pretty simple really. Texas supplied the BIG 12 with a to. Of athletes. Go back and look at Nebraskas, Mizzou's, Oklahoma States, etc rosters. They loaded up. Those teams are what were on regional broadcasts etc for many years.
Now it's going to be LSU, Arkansas, Alabama, Texas AM, etc.
It opens up an entirely new can of worms for colleges who border Texas or are in close proximity.
You're being very short sighted here. Texas is a huge state.
It's pretty simple really. Texas supplied the BIG 12 with a to. Of athletes. Go back and look at Nebraskas, Mizzou's, Oklahoma States, etc rosters. They loaded up. Those teams are what were on regional broadcasts etc for many years.
Now it's going to be LSU, Arkansas, Alabama, Texas AM, etc.
It opens up an entirely new can of worms for colleges who border Texas or are in close proximity.
Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:30 pm to Tiger Authority
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I certainly don't think that is indicative of a sinking ship,
Didn't say it was. I said...
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This coupled with the B12 being viewed with amusement, the SEC being premiere, OU is on a sinking ship and there's nothing they can do about it. imo.
...I'm directly tying OU being in the B12 (the sinking ship).
I make assumptions and don't give full explanations on a post so that it's not a novel. But's that two statements ("because aTm had one decent year." and "They went 10-3 last year. ") you attributed as a basis for my reasoning...that in fact has nothing to do with my earlier post.
It's doubtful this can be fixed.
and of course Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:32 pm to Hawgeye
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Arkansas has always recruited Texas well.
You're being very short sighted here. Texas is a huge state.
It's pretty simple really. Texas supplied the BIG 12 with a to. Of athletes. Go back and look at Nebraskas, Mizzou's, Oklahoma States, etc rosters. They loaded up. Those teams are what were on regional broadcasts etc for many years.
Now it's going to be LSU, Arkansas, Alabama, Texas AM, etc.
It opens up an entirely new can of worms for colleges who border Texas or are in close proximity.
I don't think Arkansas has always recruited Texas well. Could this help, yeah, sure. Do I think that this is going to spur some kind of mass exodus from the likes of OU and Texas, not really. LSU will still be able to compete with Houston area kids with the big the likes of Texas but aTm's inclusion in the SEC isn't going to all of a sudden allow Arkansas to do the same. Maybe you can make more inroads in the northern area of the state though.
Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:33 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
I guess we miscommunicated because I read it as OU is the sinking ship, not the conference. You are probably right about the conference.
Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:38 pm to Tiger Authority
We are and always have had inroads in the Dallas area. Look at our roster. Over half our roster is likely from Texas.
Aggy being here will help Arkansas in other regions of the state. Not just the north where we have always gotten kids.
OU doesn't worry me in the state of Texas. What concerns me is if OU loses out on kids in Oklahoma, what will be the kids and high school coaches in east Oklahoma reaction if they start trying to pull those kids away from us.
We have 3 defensive starters from the Tulsa area. We hammer that area every year.
Aggy being here will help Arkansas in other regions of the state. Not just the north where we have always gotten kids.
OU doesn't worry me in the state of Texas. What concerns me is if OU loses out on kids in Oklahoma, what will be the kids and high school coaches in east Oklahoma reaction if they start trying to pull those kids away from us.
We have 3 defensive starters from the Tulsa area. We hammer that area every year.
Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:40 pm to Hawgeye
I'm really not trying to be a dick but you went 4-8 last year so the number of roster spots filled with "insert kid from particular state" really doesn't do much for your argument.
This post was edited on 6/9/13 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:41 pm to Tiger Authority
4-8 has nothing to do with the talent.
If you actually think that then we can rest this argument because its proof I'm arguin with an idiot.
If you actually think that then we can rest this argument because its proof I'm arguin with an idiot.
Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:42 pm to Tiger Authority
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You are probably right about the conference.
Right, the B12. UT still hasn't figured it out, as evidenced by that bush league UT/OM move on LHN. They've lost CU, MU, NU and A&M....replaced by TCU and WVU. OU has no shot at B1G nor PAC whatever. UT, despite their foolishness, can get an invite anywhere. Sometimes I wonder if the sabotage is deliberate.
Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:43 pm to Hawgeye
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4-8 has nothing to do with the talent.
If you actually think that then we can rest this argument because its proof I'm arguin with an idiot.
Can you tell me something about these players other than where they were born? Stats, accolades, etc.? 4-8 has a lot to do with talent when you have that record and you had a senior starter at quarterback.
Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:43 pm to Hawgeye
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Over half our roster is likely from Texas.
I haven't looked at your roster but I would be surprised if this was the case. And if it is, you need to focus on getting better players from Texas
Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:46 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Considering they signed a grand total of 3 kids from texas in the '13 class, Hawgeye is obviously the smart one here.
This post was edited on 6/9/13 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:46 pm to Tiger Authority
4-8 last season again, has nothing to do with the talent this team had.
You could have given last seasons staff Alabama and they would have screwed them up.
You could have given last seasons staff Alabama and they would have screwed them up.
Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:47 pm to Hawgeye
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4-8 last season again, has nothing to do with the talent this team had.
You could have given last seasons staff Alabama and they would have screwed them up.
Coaching was awful, talent wasn't that great either. Especially as far as depth is concerned.
Posted on 6/9/13 at 10:49 pm to Tiger Authority
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Considering they signed a grand total of 3 kids from texas in the '13 class, Hawgeye is obviously the smart one here.
Yeah, I scrolled down their spring roster. No fricking way it is half, it's maybe a quarter. There are some decent names on there but they need to step it up now with a new staff and teams like OU and UT as down as they will ever be if they want to have a true impact
This post was edited on 6/9/13 at 10:51 pm
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