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re: Why is it that Texas A&M’s struggles annually begin in October?

Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:05 pm to
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:05 pm to
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From 2000-2009 or so, A&M had one of the worst periods in our history for football.

I disagree, it was actually Frantastic.

But even Franchione did better at A&M than Gene Stallings and several other coaches. The only success you've seen was quickly followed by NCAA probation. Bryant left town before the NCAA hammer came down, Stallings couldn't win (even while cheating), and Sherrill was run out on a rail to save your school from tougher NCAA penalties.
This post was edited on 6/22/18 at 5:08 pm
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34677 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:07 pm to
We are their rivalry game. They made towels for our game, and they have made two major head coaching decisions in the last five years because of the result of the A&M game.



It’s a big deal on a LSU site like this one.

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 6:17 pm to
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I disagree, it was actually Frantastic.


2000-2009 was the only decade in A&M history in which the football team didn't win outright or tie for a Division or Conference Title.

Even Stallings won the SWC once. Sherman tied for the Big 12 South Division title in 2010. (Oklahoma went to the title game due to BCS ranking, as A&M beat Oklahoma 33-19 that year)
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 6:23 pm to
If you want a serious answer?

2000-2002: R.C. Slocum had the inexplicable ability to lose to a vastly inferior team at the worst possible time. He was also frequently outcoached by his opposition.

2003-2007: Dennis Franchione was just awful.

2008-2011: It took Sherman 3 years to overcome Franchione. While the light came on in 2010, the late-collapses in games in 2011 sunk him.

2012-2017: Post-Manziel, Sumlin would start strong then fall apart. The teams did not know how to handle adversity
Posted by RichardCranium
Baton Rouge, Louisiana, USA
Member since Aug 2005
2465 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 6:28 pm to
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Why has LSU lost their first game in November every single year since Daddy A&M joined the SEC? Is it because you're spending every ounce of practice for the next three weeks worried about your Super Bowl at the end of the month?


Good God just terrible! Do you even care how dumb you look here?
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51790 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 6:28 pm to
You can have all the data in the world and it won’t matter if you don’t interpret it correctly.
This post was edited on 6/22/18 at 6:50 pm
Posted by NoMansLand
Member since Jun 2017
1038 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 6:30 pm to
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2000-2009 was the only decade in A&M history in which the football team didn't win outright or tie for a Division or Conference Title.


Soon enough you will be able to add the current decade to that drought. 1993 was your last title in the SWaC
Posted by Sean Bean
USA
Member since May 2018
490 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 6:47 pm to
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You can have all the data in the world and it won’t matter if you don’t interrupt it correctly.


I think I’ve interrupted the data quite nicely, thank you very much.

I now pass the bill to you, so you can get to interrupting.

There’s only so much interruption I can do for you, brother
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51790 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 6:51 pm to
You remind of those analyst right out of school.
Posted by Sean Bean
USA
Member since May 2018
490 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 6:57 pm to
You remind me of someone that can’t figure out how to extract the data to even begin to analyze it, so you’re begging me to do it for you.

Do it yourself. Afterwards, we can have a conversation about your own findings.
Posted by cramps
Member since Oct 2012
2373 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 6:57 pm to
Eat shite, sip. You lost to Fran TWICE in a row. Go play on your own board, chump.
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 7:02 pm to
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A&M beat LSU so thoroughly and repeatedly, they pulled the most chicken shite move in the history of college football because the head coach and athletic director both believed they couldn't build a winning program starting 0-1 every year. LSU fans agreed with this sentiment and heralded the move to run away so they could play easier OOC opponents to pad their record. They literally believed that if they kept playing A&M every year, they would never win, and it was undermining their entire success as a program.


Oh really?
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“I inherited a 10-year contract with LSU and Texas A&M, which is unusual. You don’t see that a lot,” explained Joe Dean Sr., LSU athletic director from 1987-2001, in a recent interview.

“What happened, and I was responsible for it to be honest, was we went from seven league games to eight league games,” Dean continued. “And it put a strain on us when we had to go there (to College Station). We needed that extra home game for financial reasons.”


Here's a nola.com article:
LINK
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That move sparked some friction between the schools, which contributed to them not renewing the series. With the SEC going to a divisional format and eight conference games in 1992, then-LSU Athletic Director Joe Dean said he couldn't afford to give up one of three non-conference home games every year.

"You've almost got to have seven home games to pay the bills," Dean said. "That's all it was. Some of the A&M people felt because we were losing to them we didn't want to play anymore.

"It was peaceful, friendly. It wasn't ugly. I thought we'd wait a few years and reschedule them when we could manipulate the home-and-home series with the SEC."


And let's not forget that the Aggies basically begged LSU to not end the contract:
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Crow had a different point of view. "I said, 'Get out of another (game)' because this game means too much for us,'" Crow said. "We would sell the stadium out for LSU. Them and Texas were only ones we did that."

But I guess he has so many reasons to bother lying in 2011.

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Unfortunately, you fell arse backwards in to Saban, and rode that momentum for so long you forgot who you were. Without Saban recruits you're essentially a less successful version of Ole Miss. Thank God for Orgeron returning LSU to its rightful place in the pecking order.
Yet somehow, LSU is still more successful than Texas A&M. How about that? Oh, and Ed Orgeron's teams have put up 99 points on the Aggies the past two years. I can't wait to see if we can put up another 40+ this year too.
This post was edited on 6/22/18 at 7:04 pm
Posted by WhereOrWere
Member since May 2013
2708 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 7:11 pm to
The irony in this thread is aggy is getting all worked up that he started at the year 2000 because supposedly they were in the beginning stages of their worst decade in school history apparently. But when LSU fans tell aggy the 90s was their worst decade in school history aggy tells LSU that this isn’t an excuse and that aggy owns LSU. fricking glorious.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148063 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 7:12 pm to
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that he started at the year 2000
shocker
Posted by OneandOeaux
Member since May 2018
2 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 7:20 pm to


I have a feeling letting this guy beat you the last time "they will ever play you" is way worse. none of my business though.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:11 pm to
Actually, A&M tied for the Big 12 South in 2010. It took the 5th tiebreaker (BCS ranking) for Oklahoma to go.

To recap:

All teams were 6-2

Oklahoma State beat A&M
A&M beat Oklahoma
Oklahoma beat Oklahoma State

Against common opponents

Oklahoma beat Missouri who beat A&M
A&M beat Nebraska who beat Oklahoma State

All three teams beat Kansas

All three teams beat the other 3 Big 12 South schools.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
10263 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:14 pm to
The whole all Hallows eve thing starts to fck with them.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51790 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:35 pm to
You’re really proud you collected a bunch of random football information. I don’t care to waste hours and days and weeks of my life doing that.

I look forward to your daily thread where people question why anyone cares.
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:45 pm to
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
100000 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:47 pm to
Yeah but what’s that got to do with Texas losing to Kansas two years ago
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