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re: Why have top SEC teams struggled in DKR Stadium lately?

Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:30 am to
Posted by n64ra
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:30 am to
Texas teams are capable of playing up or down to the level of their competition. Sark seems to have ended the playing down part last season finally.
Posted by Capn_Bevo
Austin
Member since Jan 2019
915 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:49 am to
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I still believe the winner of that Texas LSU matchup was the one that was going to win it all.
Nah. Tom Herman was good at getting his teams up for those types of games. But he always lost one's he should've have
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
18215 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:14 am to
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Texas didn't do well after that but that team had the stuff.


they in fact did not
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
70136 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:23 am to
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We did beat Georgia in the Sugar Bowl that year, but they didn’t want to be there.

It doesn't excuse the Dawgs phoning it in, but thank you for being the first and possibly only Horns fan who acknowledges this.
Posted by LSUTigresFan
SE Louisiana to Austin (Texas Ex)
Member since Mar 2013
4777 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:00 am to
Oh yea. Because scoring a touchdown on 4th down wouldn’t have been a huge momentum booster so early in the game. You got me pal.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:07 am to
good talk aggy
Posted by LSUTigresFan
SE Louisiana to Austin (Texas Ex)
Member since Mar 2013
4777 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:09 am to
Like LSU fans don’t ever talk about what if scenarios. I could recall multiple games where LSU fans on tigerdroppings were crying because a play or two wasn’t made or the team left points on the field and lost. Why you gotta call me an aggy? It doesn’t feel right.
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 11:15 am
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:11 am to
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We did beat Georgia in the Sugar Bowl that year, but they didn’t want to be there.


Smart actually learned a lot from that game.

Since then, UGA has changed how they handle post season games when they aren't in the playoffs.

UGA now encourages guys who are wanting to focus on the NFL or who are wanting to transfer to NOT play in the bowl games rather than show up and play but not be into the game. The coaching staff has made it plain that the bowls are for guys who want to increase their draft stock or try to win a starting spot for UGA the following year. They push guys who aren't putting in effort in practice to not make the trip with the team to the bowl.

That's a big reason why UGA hasn't lost a bowl game since then. The guys who play for UGA are all-in rather than coasting.

That year against Texas, we had a few guys who were definitely coasting.

That's not a knock on Texas winning the game. It was a lesson for our coaching staff. They naively thought those who played in the game would play hard.
Posted by swinetime
Member since Apr 2013
5247 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:13 am to
2003 Arkansas blew the doors off that dump of a stadium

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HOLY frick:
ACCORDING TO 3 SECONDS OF RESEARCH MISSOURI HASN’T WON IN AUSTIN SINCE 1896! 123 years before LSU last won in Austin.



So this was really just about Mizzou not other SEC teams
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 11:18 am
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
17282 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:14 am to
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That's not a knock on Texas winning the game. It was a lesson for our coaching staff. They naively thought those who played in the game would play hard.

Seems reasonable.. I like the thought process.. All the NFL guys to showcase their talent (if they want) and allow the young guys to stake a claim on a starting spot.. this is the way it should be..

Posted by Archibald
Member since Apr 2024
1979 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:21 am to
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I still believe the winner of that Texas LSU matchup was the one that was going to win it all.
I think overestimate Tom Herman and Todd Orlando’s coaching abilities. Texas had good players, but for the most part they hated Herman. At LSU, the players loved Coach O and you saw it in how they played for him.

The main takeaway I had from that game is that neither team looked like “DBU”
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
22310 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:37 am to
We won our last trip there on a cold and windy Thanksgiving night. Nice TD run by Cyrus Gray who had over 200 yards rushing and a big interception by Von Miller.

Was sitting right in the middle of Texas season ticket holders. Was a good night.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11175 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:52 am to
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Kinda magical thinking that all of a sudden UGA is gonna wake up and put it all together.



There is more than ample data halfway through the season that UGA is not elite and may not be exceptionally good or even good. It is not out of the realm of possibility that they put together a full 60 minute effort but they haven't done it this season.....the last 2 games have been as close as they've gotten and there were more than enough lapses in those 2 games to prove the point. Unless Texas turns the ball over a couple of times (it won't happen because UGA forces it unless the trend reverses itself) UGA has to play as well as they did in the second half of the Clemson game to have a punchers shot. That is unlikely.


I am not certain Texas is elite either but they are certainly exceptionally good. They have handled their business on the road and in neutral site games as well as at home. UGA has struggled for a half in almost every game no matter where it was being played. That might be an advantage for UGA if Texas finds itself behind. It is doubtful to be enough.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:54 am to
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Can’t see Georgia winning this weekend. So damn fickle you never know how they going to play. Talent every where but they can’t seem to dominate..



There is ample evidence to confidently predict how UGA performs - they will start slow, have periods of brilliance and make untimely mistakes that will cost them the game. The season is 50% over. They have done it in every game but the rent a win. It is unlikely that what we see is what UGA is.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11175 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:01 pm to
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2019 LSU got much better as the year went on. Burrow improved every week and the defense hits it stride down the backend of the season.


This is a fact. UGA has not improved. They have looked about the same from game one to six. UGA is not bad, they are simply not elite for certain and may not even be better than average. The roster is there but chemistry and team leadership is missing. One could say complacency....entitlement....whatever word one uses it is obvious this is not the same team as the last 3. It could be....on paper its more talented than last year and arguably is the most talented team Smart has had. Talent is not enough, it is still a team sport and a game of emotion.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:02 pm to
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UGA has to play as well as they did in the second half of the Clemson game to have a punchers shot. That is unlikely.



I'm not quite as negative as you.

Honestly, if UGA plays the same as they did in the Clemson game I think they can win against Texas. Clemson has a very good offense this year, and UGA held that offense in check the entire game. If their defense does the same and the offense only shows up for a half like against Clemson, that's still a game UGA can win.

Clemson has scored 66, 59. 49, 40 and 29 points in their wins this year. They scored 3 against UGA.

Turnovers are the big question. UGA had 0 offensive turnovers in 4 of their 6 games. They had 4 against Bama and 2 against MSU. If that trend continues, Texas will likely win. If UGA has another 0 turnover game though, UGA has a very good shot of winning.

UGA has NOT shown consistency this year. But they have shown evidence that they can be very good on both sides of the ball at various times. To be a championship level team, UGA doesn't need to show anything new on either side of the ball. They just have to consistently play at or near what they've shown "to the good" on both sides of the ball.

Is that still a big ask? Yeah, it is. But at least it's not asking them to break new ground halfway through the season.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11175 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:07 pm to
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That's a big reason why UGA hasn't lost a bowl game since then. The guys who play for UGA are all-in rather than coasting.


There is a pretty good chance that UGA still makes the playoff with a loss to Texas which will mean UGA plays in what amounts to at least one meaningful bowl game. There is also a pretty good shot that UGA loses 3-4 games this season and winds up in some meaningless bowl game. I will bet a coca cola that if the latter happens a bunch of players on THIS UGA team opt out of any bowl game that is not a play off game. This UGA team is comprised of players waiting for someone else to make a play, there is very little emotion on the field....its just different for UGA this year.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11175 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:14 pm to
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Honestly, if UGA plays the same as they did in the Clemson game I think they can win against Texas. Clemson has a very good offense this year, and UGA held that offense in check the entire game. If their defense does the same and the offense only shows up for a half like against Clemson, that's still a game UGA can win.



I still suffer from Vince Dooley and Larry Munson Derangement Syndrome and probably always will. If UGA plays 60 minutes like they did the second half of the Clemson game UGA has a shot and could blow Texas out by double digits. If they play 22 minutes like they did against Alabama the result is the same or worse than that game. With the body of work through half of the season it is far more likely that the latter happens than the former.

Second half Clemson is what we as UGA fans thought this team would be. First 22 minutes of the Alabama game is closer to what they have been in most games halfway through the season.
Posted by EastTXHorn
Houston
Member since Jan 2019
1449 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:18 pm to
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2022 game was the result of corrupt and incompetent Big12 refs bailing Bama out when we had Bryce Young sacked in the endzone for a safety.


The defensive gameplan for Alabama ‘22 was brilliant. It was devised by Gary Patterson who was brought in to mentor PK our DC. I give all the credit to Bryce Young though. It came down to a corner blitz, Watts had him squared up, and Young dropped it low like a Houston stripper. Bryce made a ton of plays under duress that season. Hell even Kansas State was on their way to blowing them out before Bryce bailed them out with some ridiculous extended plays.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
86570 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 1:21 pm to
not something from like the first quarter bro
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