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re: Why does Kirby Smart refuse to recruit or play a athletic QB ?

Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:34 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:34 pm to
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hard of a schedule as anyone lately from top to bottom


So why are you struggling so much in the other thread when discussing how richt played easier schedules top to bottom?

You are Nothing but a hypocrite losing an argument.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:37 pm to
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Is it somehow your position that they have an easy schedule every year? It's really bizarre.

lol I give up. I have no idea why you aren’t getting this. I said bama hasn’t played any games against quality OoC opponents recently. That’s it. I never mentioned overall SoS. I never mentioned playoffs. I never mentioned ranked opponents since 2007, but for some reason all of it keeps getting brought up. Going back to 2017 I can find a matchup with an OoC opponent who finished the year top 25 for just about every SEC team, multiple for around half the teams. Bama hasn’t had 1.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:37 pm to
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So why are you struggling so much in the other thread when discussing how richt played easier schedules top to bottom?





Richt played in a much tougher and competitive East his first 5 seasons than Kirby did. We can't even go to step 2 until you accept that. The SEC East has been an absolute turd since 2017. Its been a laughable joke.
Posted by DP4Tide
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:38 pm to
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Alabama has had how many neutral site openers vs ranked teams in the Saban era? 6? 7?


7

#6 Clemson
#7 VT
#8 Mich
#20 Wisky
#20 USC
#3 FSU
#14 Miami
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:39 pm to
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lol I give up. I have no idea why you aren’t getting this. I said bama hasn’t played any games against quality OoC opponents recently. That’s it. I never mentioned overall SoS. I never mentioned playoffs. I never mentioned ranked opponents since 2007, but for some reason all of it keeps getting brought up. Going back to 2017 I can find a matchup with an OoC opponent who finished the year top 25 for just about every SEC team, multiple for around half the teams. Bama hasn’t had 1.


So at the end of the day how does this even matter? Didn't Alabama just become the first SEC team to win 10 SEC games in a regular season last year? (really 11 if you count SEC champ game) If Miami somehow finishes in the top 25 this year does that really
change anything? Especially in such a noncompetitive game?
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 12:41 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:40 pm to
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So we've gone from why doesn't Alabama play ranked ooc teams in openers to Alabama doesn't play ooc openers vs teams that finished ranked?

In fairness a record does indicate how strong a team is, and a 4-5 loss team can typically finish in the top 25.

I am genuinely curious....are you an Alabama fan? I mean, I have no fight with Alabama. I think they have proven how good they are. But you seem emotionally invested in them for somebody wearing SMU colors.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:42 pm to
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Richt played in a much tougher and competitive East his first 5 seasons than Kirby did. We can't even go to step 2 until you accept that. The SEC East has been an absolute turd since 2017. Its been a laughable joke.


“Top to bottom” is what you want to talk about ITT.

“Top to bottom” is what you still refuse to discuss when discussing richt and Kirby.

The east wasn’t even good in 02-05, which makes your point even more stupid.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41451 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:43 pm to
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7

#6 Clemson
#7 VT
#8 Mich
#20 Wisky
#20 USC
#3 FSU
#14 Miami


Final ranks were?
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11797 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:44 pm to
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The east wasn’t even good in 02-05, which makes your point even more stupid.



Much better than it has been from 2017 to 2020. The current SEC East might as well be the ACC Coastal division.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62009 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:44 pm to
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So at the end of the day how does this even matter? Didn't Alabama just become the first SEC team to win 10 SEC games in a regular season last year?


Do you beleive that nobody else could have done that same thing in years past? I mean the reason they were the first is because it was (probably) the first time a team had played 10 SEC games. I suspect LSU could have easily done it in 2019.
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If Miami somehow finishes in the top 25 this year does that really
change anything? Especially in such a noncompetitive game?

I suspect given the state of the ACC that Miami will finish with at least close to 10 wins. They certainly should finish in the top 25. Again, Alabama has proven they are good and does not have to explain anything to anybody...but your insistence seems odd at best.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11797 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:47 pm to
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are you an Alabama fan?


No which is why I might be off on a few of the data points but to act like Alabama has had easy schedules or is afraid to play ooc games in recent times is laughable. They have played and won so many under Saban it is almost impossible to keep up with how many and I think it is why there is so much Bama fatigue in college football. People are sick and tired of seeing Alabama win.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11797 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:48 pm to
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but your insistence seems odd at best.



Whats odd is seeing people try and claim Bama doesn't play or try to schedule tough games. It defies all logic.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62009 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:49 pm to
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The current SEC East might as well be the ACC Coastal division.


Which ACC Coastal division team do you think could have won the SEC in the past 5 years or so?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41451 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:49 pm to
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Much better than it has been from 2017 to 2020.



You are going to have to Prove it.

02-05
17-20

Total ranked teams?
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62009 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:51 pm to
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Whats odd is seeing people try and claim Bama doesn't play or try to schedule tough games. It defies all logic.



In fairness, I think a lot of Alabama's opening games have been arranged by sponsors as "Kickoff games"? Chick-Fil-A for one? Didn't they try to match up SEC vs. ACC a lot of years? I may be wrong. I am not in the argument so much as amused at your passion over the subject. You do seem to have an ax to grind with Georgia.

But my point is no Alabama fans seem invested in this but an SMU fan is?
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
6186 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:53 pm to
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So at the end of the day how does this even matter?

I have no idea why it matters this much to you. I just mentioned Bama’s lack of recent quality games against OoC opponents.
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Didn't Alabama just become the first SEC team to win 10 SEC games in a regular season last year?

Sure. I have no idea how this relates to my comment, but I guess so.
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If Miami somehow finishes in the top 25 this year does that really
change anything? Especially in such a noncompetitive game?

Yes. If Miami runs the table and finishes top 15 or so then the win looks better. That performance looks all the more dominant because well know it was against a quality opponent.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11797 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:57 pm to
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Which ACC Coastal division team do you think could have won the SEC in the past 5 years or so?


Were did I say an ACC team would have won the SEC? I compared the SEC East to the ACC Coastal as a division I said nothing about winning the SEC outright. Georgia has only won the SEC once in Kirby's tenure. We have the data point of Mark Richt's Miami Team destroying the same ND team Georgia had a struggle win against in 2017......

Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11797 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:58 pm to
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Yes. If Miami runs the table and finishes top 15 or so then the win looks better. That performance looks all the more dominant because well know it was against a quality opponent.


Miami has zero bearing on Alabama's season this year. None. The game is over. Alabama can still win the SEC and/or the NC regardless of what Miami does. Same thing goes for Georgia regarding Clemson. The final ranking of Miami or Clemson doesn't matter anymore.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 1:02 pm
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
6186 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:04 pm to
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Miami has zero bearing on Alabama's season this year. None. Te game is over. Alabama can still win the SEC and/or the NC regardless of what Miami does. Same thing goes for Georgia regarding Clemson.

We’re clearly talking about separate things. Anyway, I know I’d end up more impressed over that Miami win if Miami ends up finishing the season top 10. Just like I’d be less impressed with the Clemson win if clemson stumbles to a 7-5 season.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41451 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:09 pm to
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compared the SEC East to the ACC Coastal as a divisio


Which is pretty damn stupid considering the Sec east had 3 top 11 teams in 2018. That’s tougher than anything richt faced from 02-05.
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