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re: Why does Alabama claim som many national titles
Posted on 12/23/14 at 3:25 pm to Patton
Posted on 12/23/14 at 3:25 pm to Patton
Sorry, got busy.
I was under the impression Okie State played a harder schedule. But yes if both teams finish with the same record you take the one with the tougher schedule (H2H matters less than SOS if that happens to be part of the equation also).
Totally disagree. A team that is 25-0 against 25 cupcakes is not as deserving as a team that is 10-0 against 3-4 good teams. The Michigan tie is even a point in NDs favor IMO as they were undefeated, #2 and the game was at MSU.
Not really relevant or even a serious comment by him.
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So I assume you fully endorse Alabama getting into the 2011 title game because they played a harder schedule then Okie State?
I was under the impression Okie State played a harder schedule. But yes if both teams finish with the same record you take the one with the tougher schedule (H2H matters less than SOS if that happens to be part of the equation also).
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And sorry but 11-0 beats 9-0-1 every single time. If Notre Dame was so good, they shouldn't have tied Michigan State.
Totally disagree. A team that is 25-0 against 25 cupcakes is not as deserving as a team that is 10-0 against 3-4 good teams. The Michigan tie is even a point in NDs favor IMO as they were undefeated, #2 and the game was at MSU.
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Apparently the best coach ever, in his prime at that time, had no clue what he was talking about. Right?
Not really relevant or even a serious comment by him.
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 3:53 pm to I-59 Tiger
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They claim a title in 1973 yet lost to ND
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They also claim one from 1964 when they proceeded to lose their bowl to Texas. That's why most fans consider Arkansas the 1964 National Champion in football.
And at the same time, they scoff at the three titles Ole Miss claims...This is why they suck.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 3:59 pm to REBSontheRISE
Ole Miss also claims 3 titles during the AP/UPI era that...well....aren't AP/UPI Titles.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 4:10 pm to Lexie007
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They claim a title in 1973 yet lost to ND.
That was the damn system back then. UPI named the champs prior to the bowls. Hell, for years both wire services did that. 'Bama wasn't the only school to lose their bowl game after being crowned the MNC. No reason not to claim it. Now some of those K-Mart titles that some teams claim are a bit of a stretch. I'm satisfied with three that can't be questioned and hope for a couple more before I cash in.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 4:27 pm to Lexie007
Just like your Gophers claim 1960 despite losing their bowl game.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 4:29 pm to RANDY44
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That was the damn system back then. UPI named the champs prior to the bowls. Hell, for years both wire services did that. 'Bama wasn't the only school to lose their bowl game after being crowned the MNC. No reason not to claim it. Now some of those K-Mart titles that some teams claim are a bit of a stretch. I'm satisfied with three that can't be questioned and hope for a couple more before I cash in.
50 Oklahoma
51 Tennessee
53 Maryland
57 Auburn (banned)
60 Minnesota
65 Michigan State
70 Texas
74 Oklahoma (banned)
Not to mention all the years that teams like Army (44, 45) Michigan State (52), Notre Dame (43, 46, 47, 49, 66) Pittsburgh (37) and others who outright refused to play in a bowl.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 12/23/14 at 4:37 pm to Lexie007
Posted on 12/23/14 at 4:48 pm to I-59 Tiger
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Michigan State could not play in a bowl game. Until the 1975 season the only bowl a Big 10 team could play in was the Rose Bowl. And, until the 1972 season,there was a "no repeat" rule. Michigan State won the Big 10 in 1965 and went to the Rose and won again in 1966. Purdue was the Big 10 'representative.'
Yes, I'm aware of the rule...which MIchigan State as a Big Ten member helped propogate. The Pac 10 had the same rule. And Notre Dame refused to play in bowls. Funny how everyone but Bama fans want to give them a pass for that.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 4:51 pm to michaeldwde
Posted on 12/23/14 at 5:00 pm to Lexie007
"Why do we claim so many cham........because that's why...."
"....and here's so you don't forget. "
Posted on 12/23/14 at 5:10 pm to Lexie007
Wish I had seen this earlier.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 5:38 pm to pvilleguru
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Which team doesn't claim a UPI or AP title that they were awarded?
*Waiting for responses
Posted on 12/23/14 at 6:26 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
In case you have forgotten, the rankings then were just as biased, all the northern teams were ranked if they had any kind of team at all to start the season.
You say Notre Dame played four top ten teams, I say B.S., they played Southern Cal and Oklahoma who were top ten at the time, but both teams finished with four losses.
Out of the final poll, coaches poll since the A.P. was only a Top 10 poll at this time, here is the teams played that were ranked.
Notre Dame played Mich St. 2
Purdue number 6 Southen Cal number 19
Bama played Nebraska number 7
Ole Miss number 12
Tennessee number 14
On top of that Florida won the Orange bowl
Alabama won the Sugar bowl
Georgia won the Cotton bowl.
I think this proves the SEC was the best conference.
You say Notre Dame played four top ten teams, I say B.S., they played Southern Cal and Oklahoma who were top ten at the time, but both teams finished with four losses.
Out of the final poll, coaches poll since the A.P. was only a Top 10 poll at this time, here is the teams played that were ranked.
Notre Dame played Mich St. 2
Purdue number 6 Southen Cal number 19
Bama played Nebraska number 7
Ole Miss number 12
Tennessee number 14
On top of that Florida won the Orange bowl
Alabama won the Sugar bowl
Georgia won the Cotton bowl.
I think this proves the SEC was the best conference.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:01 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
How in the hell does this still get 6 pages? I've bern here a year and this topic has come up at least 50 times... Oh my bad because retards like SEC Crazy keep writing short essays in response...
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:03 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Not really relevant or even a serious comment by him.
The problem with your argument is that you would have the opposite argument if the teams were reversed.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:03 pm to NGATiger
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I discount all the debatable ones, and then take these with Saban away too since the NCAA will be doing that in a few years anyway. That puts you guys behind ND, OU, and probably some other schools
Well done sir!
Posted on 12/23/14 at 8:16 pm to AU4real35
Or maybe because retards like you reply ?
I stated facts.
You stated shyt.
I stated facts.
You stated shyt.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 8:23 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Yes, I'm aware of the rule...which MIchigan State as a Big Ten member helped propogate. The Pac 10 had the same rule. And Notre Dame refused to play in bowls. Funny how everyone but Bama fans want to give them a pass for that.
Helped propogate? What ignorance.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:11 pm to AU4real35
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AU4real35
Why does Alabama claim som many national titles
How in the hell does this still get 6 pages?
Well, an Auburn fan's post wondering how the thread got to be this long makes its' own contribution, I guess.
I never get why people make posts complaining about the length of threads...thereby extending the length of said thread.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:13 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
So it's our fault that Auburn ducked in 66? Quit dragging down our SOS.
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