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re: Why did Texas and Oklahoma follow A&M and Mizzou to the SEC?

Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:37 am to
Posted by QBUMizzou
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:37 am to
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Nebraska left the Big 12 before LHN came about.


I have no sympathy for the Huskers but they left because you destabilized the conference to the point it imploded. Any other take is revisionism and gaslighting.
Posted by tBrand
Member since Oct 2022
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:42 am to
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I have no sympathy for the Huskers but they left because you destabilized the conference to the point it imploded. Any other take is revisionism and gaslighting.

You can just hysterically scream “gas lighting” like a woman or you could bring examples of how we destabilized the conference before Nebraska left.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:43 am to
He’s right though

Nebraska reached out to the Big Ten because the rumor was everywhere that you guys were going to pack up and go to the Pac 10

Posted by Pimphand
Member since Sep 2021
3591 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:47 am to
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TCU was supposed to be the "upgrade" over A&M


I don't remember anyone saying that but from 2014-24 TCU vastly outperformed A&M in football.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Member since Jun 2013
22002 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:47 am to
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The SEC conference is nothing more than an aggregation of the most passionate fans in the country. That's why Texas/OU joined.

No. You got humbled after you thought you ran shite.

You came to the SEC, hat in hand, on Aggie and Mizzou coattails.

We can go through all of your hubris again, point by point, if you like.
Posted by tBrand
Member since Oct 2022
2599 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:50 am to
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You came to the SEC, hat in hand, on Aggie and Mizzou coattails.

Texas had a standing invite to the SEC for 30+ years. Literally the only school that rode anyone’s coattails to the SEC is Missouri
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:52 am to
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TCU was supposed to be the "upgrade" over A&M


I mean, it was

Posted by tBrand
Member since Oct 2022
2599 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:52 am to
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Nebraska reached out to the Big Ten because the rumor was everywhere that you guys were going to pack up and go to the Pac 10

Nebraska started getting cozy with B1G after the 2009 Big 12 title game. Ten days after that game, the B1G announces a plan to expand. So it’s really the other way around. Texas started looking because Nebraska did.
Posted by Soonerd78
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:54 am to
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Why leave it? Did those huge equal revenue sharing payouts to A&M and Mizzou bother you?

You would have never gotten equal anything in the big 12 …. We make 20-30 more a season in the sec … OUs revenue number are pushing 300 million now … wait till the new revenue numbers come out and you have your answer …. Following someone 7 years later isn’t following lol…….. we left for money . Mizery is just a piss any state we have to travel to play one game every other year .
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:56 am to
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Nebraska reached out to the Big Ten because the rumor was everywhere that you guys were going to pack up and go to the Pac 10

And tried to take you with them without even informing you of the negotiations.

Whorn Hubris at it's finest.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
61614 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:57 am to
“Don’t worry, we’ll take care of you”

Thank goodness for Bowen Loftin
Posted by tBrand
Member since Oct 2022
2599 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:58 am to
We were just looking out for our downtrodden little brother. To his credit, he struck out on his own, like Fredo going to work for Moe Greene in Vegas.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
10146 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 12:00 pm to
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You can just hysterically scream “gas lighting” like a woman or you could bring examples of how we destabilized the conference before Nebraska left.

Texas fans are delusional. Yes, Nebraska left before the LHN was launched. But that doesn't mean Nebraska did not leave because Texas had destabilized the conference.
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 12:02 pm
Posted by QBUMizzou
North of the Mason Dixon line
Member since Nov 2013
395 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 12:01 pm to
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You can just hysterically scream “gas lighting” like a woman or you could bring examples of how we destabilized the conference before Nebraska left.


Stupid.

Why did Texas and OU come to the SEC? What conditions existed?

Push factors: Big 12 was a shell of its former self after the loss of Mizzou, A&M, Nubs, and Colorado. The teams added were poor substitutes. Media weren’t as interested, and revenues were a joke. The puppet commish was an idiot. Longhorn Network was a failure.

Pull factors: Mizzou and A&M had enhanced revenues and profile. All other major programs were in settled and stable conferences. Your “upgrades” proved meaningless and hollow. You wanted money so you finally agreed to equal revenue sharing-just like your former conference wanted.

You are in the SEC because you f-d everything up royally, and needed to follow A&M and Mizzou’s much wiser path.
Posted by tBrand
Member since Oct 2022
2599 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 12:06 pm to
Previous two posts from Mizzou posters still can’t seem to explain how Texas pushed Nebraska out of the Big 12. So I will do it for them. They went 1-9 against us in the Big 12, culminating in losing the Big 12 CCG where 1 second was left on the clock. So they took their ball and left.
Posted by Jake81
Member since Jul 2021
246 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 12:07 pm to
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Since those programs are so wonderful (gag), and they don’t consider MU and A&M rivals, and Texas had their precious Longwhorn network, and OU is supposedly independent of their brother-lover Texas, why couldn’t they make the Big 12 work after A&M and Mizzou left for the promised land?


Do you realy think the SEC wanted Missouri over OU or Texas in 2012?

Or did they take aggie, then need an even number and OU or Texas didnt want to move then?
Posted by QBUMizzou
North of the Mason Dixon line
Member since Nov 2013
395 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 12:11 pm to
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Do you realy think the SEC wanted Missouri over OU or Texas in 2012? Or did they take aggie, then need an even number and OU or Texas didnt want to move then?


The better question is if that’s true why didn’t OU and Texas go to the SEC at that time?

Hint…it wasn’t loyalty.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
61614 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 12:13 pm to
Bingo
Posted by QBUMizzou
North of the Mason Dixon line
Member since Nov 2013
395 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 12:14 pm to
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You would have never gotten equal anything in the big 12 …. We make 20-30 more a season in the sec .


You’re too stupid to realize you just proved my point.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
10146 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 12:15 pm to
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Previous two posts from Mizzou posters still can’t seem to explain how Texas pushed Nebraska out of the Big 12. So I will do it for them. They went 1-9 against us in the Big 12, culminating in losing the Big 12 CCG where 1 second was left on the clock. So they took their ball and left.

It was certainly a factor. But that ignores some other pretty big ones:

1. Texas destroyed partial qualifiers, which destroyed Nebraska's dynasty (this was the only good thing that Texas ever did for the Big 12).

2. The conference headquarters were moved from Kansas City to Dallas, pulling the conference from old Big Eight centric, to the Texas show.

3. At the time Nebraska left for the Big 10, Colorado had already announced that it was leaving for the Pac-10, and there were rumors about Texas and minions joining Colorado and forming a Pac-16. At this point, Nebraska came to the Big 12 table and suggested re-negotiating conference media rights. Texas balked and Nebraska took that as a sign that Texas was conference shopping. Nebraska then fled to the Big Ten.

4. After Colorado and Nebraska left, Texas and minions continued to flirt with the Pac. Suddenly, they recommitted to the Big 12, and the Longhorn Network was announced. This effectively precluded a Big 12 Network while allowing Texas to keep all the revenue from the Longhorn Network and not have to share with the other Big 12 schools. Texas thought this was their golden goose. They did not give a shite, nor have the foresight, to see that their reckless greed would ultimately lead to the end of the Big 12 as a top conference.
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