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re: Why did Jimbo lose his quarterback evaluation skills after 2012?
Posted on 8/12/21 at 11:11 am to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 8/12/21 at 11:11 am to SidewalkTiger
Well y'all better get to sellin that moonshine then 
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 11:13 am to SidewalkTiger
I believe Mond was just drafted in the 3rd Round. I mean he didn't win a Heisman or anything but it's not like he sucked. He was just a very solid D1 QB that was MVP of the Senior Bowl as well.
Prior to that of course he had 3 QB's that were 1st Round picks at FSU (Winston, Ponder, Manuel).
The biggest problem he had at FSU was they refused to invest in facilities to keep up with Clemson and the SEC and his recruiting was suffering. That's why he eventually left, he knew he was going to always be at a disadvantage in the new era of football.
I mean I guess you can find some way to look for flaws in Jimbo's QB development but when he can pick up the phone and let a recruit talk to one of several QB's that are now millionaires that played for him I don't think that's a wise bet. Knock yourself out though.
Prior to that of course he had 3 QB's that were 1st Round picks at FSU (Winston, Ponder, Manuel).
The biggest problem he had at FSU was they refused to invest in facilities to keep up with Clemson and the SEC and his recruiting was suffering. That's why he eventually left, he knew he was going to always be at a disadvantage in the new era of football.
I mean I guess you can find some way to look for flaws in Jimbo's QB development but when he can pick up the phone and let a recruit talk to one of several QB's that are now millionaires that played for him I don't think that's a wise bet. Knock yourself out though.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 11:13 am to Bobbum Man
Bringing up programs revenues/expenses is an odd look since first, it has nothing to do with this topic at all.
Second, the programs themselves aren't paying the players.
Second, the programs themselves aren't paying the players.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 11:23 am to aggressor
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The biggest problem he had at FSU was they refused to invest in facilities to keep up with Clemson and the SEC and his recruiting was suffering.
This is the excuse but it doesn't really hold up when you compare it to recruiting rankings.
He actually recruited better at Florida State than he does at Texas A&M when you compare average class ranking.
2010: #8
2011: #2
2012: #4
2013: #11
2014: #4
2015: #3
2016: #3
2017: #6
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:54 pm to SidewalkTiger
You’re missing the point.
1. Under certain circumstances, money will absolutely be flowing from the school to the athlete (via loophole mechanisms, etc.). You know this to be true, in fact you already admitted so yourself.
2. The amount of revenue a program can generate is a good indication of overall interest in a program. The amount of overall interest in a program will obviously correlate very closely with the number and $ value of NIL deals.
This shouldn’t have to be explained really.
1. Under certain circumstances, money will absolutely be flowing from the school to the athlete (via loophole mechanisms, etc.). You know this to be true, in fact you already admitted so yourself.
2. The amount of revenue a program can generate is a good indication of overall interest in a program. The amount of overall interest in a program will obviously correlate very closely with the number and $ value of NIL deals.
This shouldn’t have to be explained really.
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:06 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Malik Henry
He was such a douche bag on Last chance U. Dude thought he was THE shite and believed he was too good to be there. HA
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:15 pm to aggressor
He's building his program well so far. Even with the 2019 struggles that team improved and still won 8 games despite being the youngest in CFB with the toughest schedule.
A&M needs to win atleast 10 games this season. Maybe they'll do better than that.
A&M needs to win atleast 10 games this season. Maybe they'll do better than that.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:18 pm to BLG
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A better question is why do you always troll? I mean, like nearly 27,000 posts in 19 months and nearly all are troll posts, mostly about Alabama, but a good lot to A&M fans. I know why A&M. Because Alabama is out of your league and after Fisher won 2 of 3 vs LSU you fear you're about to be 3rd in the division.
But why do you always troll and rarely ever start a thread to actually discuss the game? Is it because you don't know much about the game, or what
Weird thread to post this diatribe in. That QB list is Les Milesesque
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:25 pm to SidewalkTiger
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He actually recruited better at Florida State than he does at Texas A&M when you compare average class ranking.
2010: #8
2011: #2
2012: #4
2013: #11
2014: #4
2015: #3
2016: #3
2017: #6
Of course he did when you only use rankings. Florida State retook control of the state of Florida when Muschamp crippled Florida, McElwain killed them and Miami was irrelevant.
Once again, I have to teach you how to find relevant stats. You have to compare Florida State vs. Clemson over that span using ACC rankings.
2010: Florida State - 1, Clemson - 4
2011: Florida State - 1, Clemson - 2
2012: Florida State - 1, Clemson - 3
2013: Florida State - 1, Clemson - 3
2014: Florida State - 1, Clemson - 3
2015: Florida State - 1, Clemson - 2
2016: Florida State - 1, Clemson - 2
2017: Florida State - 1, Clemson - 3
Now compare Florida State with SEC programs over that span.
2010: Below Florida, Alabama, Auburn and Tennessee
2011: Below Alabama
2012: Below Alabama and Florida
2013: Below Alabama, Florida, LSU. Ole Miss, Texas A&M and Auburn
2014: Below Alabama and LSU
2015: Below Alabama
2016: Below Alabama and LSU
2017: Below Alabama and Georgia
Now let's look at A&M in the 3 classes before Fisher:
2015 - Below Alabama, Tennessee, LSU, Georgia and Auburn
2016 - Below Alabama, LSU, Ole Miss, Georgia, Auburn, Florida and Tennessee
2017 - Below Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Auburn and Florida
Fisher arrives.
2018 - Below Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, Florida and LSU
2019 - Below Alabama and Georgia
2020 - Below Georgia, Alabama and LSU
2021 - Below Alabama, Georgia and LSU
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:25 pm to cramps
Well, I guess from a fan standpoint, it's got to be tough watching your first love go to your main adversary and they start dominating you. Then watching your second love stand you up and go to your other SEC main rival and now they too are getting the best of you. The old double whammy. Then, just to add insult to injury, you still have to go home every night with Yosemite Sam. The life of a Cajun just can't be easy these days.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:33 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Dabo ran fisher out of the ACC and Sark and Riley will run his arse out of the SEC. bookmark it
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:37 pm to bamameister
I hope we get a championship in my lifetime
I’ll be 2 this year
I’ll be 2 this year
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:06 pm to Bobbum Man
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You’re missing the point.
1. Under certain circumstances, money will absolutely be flowing from the school to the athlete (via loophole mechanisms, etc.). You know this to be true, in fact you already admitted so yourself.
2. The amount of revenue a program can generate is a good indication of overall interest in a program. The amount of overall interest in a program will obviously correlate very closely with the number and $ value of NIL deals.
This shouldn’t have to be explained really.
Again, what does this have to do with Jimbo's quarterback evaluation skills?
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:09 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Of course he did when you only use rankings.
Well that's what I said
Make excuses for it or justify it however you want, the fact of the matter is that Jimbo's recruiting wasn't suffering at Florida State and he also pulled in higher ranked classes, on average, there than he has at A&M.
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:42 pm to SidewalkTiger
FSU folks have wondered about this for years. Shite list
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:45 pm to 1BamaRTR
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He’s got to have by far the highest posts/day average on this entire site (including TD).
We don’t want him either, he’s like our texag7.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 5:33 pm to Bobby Jimbo
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We'll have Conner Weigman right after him.
Weigman's junior tape looks better than King's.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 5:35 pm to Tantal
This just popped up on my IG feed today:
Posted on 8/12/21 at 5:45 pm to ColoradoAg
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Fisher has raised the talent level at A&M high enough that we can realistically talk about the playoffs and championships. It wasn't remotely close before, and it took a generational player to show that (JFF)
King has to be good, not exceptional for A&M to be competitive. IF he is exceptional, then we can start talking championships. BTW, right behind King is Weigman, who is an exceptional talent. We are going to be good for at least the next few years, minimum.
Generational player? Bhwahahahahaha!!!!
Posted on 8/12/21 at 6:38 pm to KingofTexas
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Dabo ran fisher out of the ACC and Sark and Riley will run his arse out of the SEC. bookmark it
Bookmarked.
You should be ashamed to even mention Sark in a sentence with Jimbo, but of course you’re texas.
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 7:01 pm
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