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Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:19 am to gatorhata9
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Gardevoir
All this guy can talk about is the past and the scores/results of past seasons. He's somewhat knowledgeable of the SEC West teams, but doesn't have a good grasp on the East.
If we're going to talk about the past I'd say some dumbass shite like: "This is the best offense we've had since Stafford, Knowshon, and AJ Green in 2008, but we have the best offensive line we've had since 2002. We hung 52 on LSU in Death Valley in 2008 and I expect this to be their worst defense since '08. Thus, since the game is in Athens and all this bullshite from the past, I expect us to drop 60 to 70 against LSU in Athens this year."
How ridiculous does that sound?
But, hey, at least this has been an interesting thread.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:28 am to Lsupimp
Great offense versus an unknown defense
Good defense versus an unknown and previously poor offense
Home game for Georgia
I could see this one getting out of hand.
Good defense versus an unknown and previously poor offense
Home game for Georgia
I could see this one getting out of hand.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 5:32 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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In 2011 LSU went into Atlanta with a very young defense and the 100th ranked passing game and 62nd ranked total offense.
Result: 42-10.
Conclusion: LSU can win without good QB play.
*sigh* Apparently LSU fans either cannot, or refuse to read. LSU fans keep saying that Mettenberger would "improve by a mile" because of his experience from last year. I was merely pointing out that there was a good chance that he would not. MANY times I have said that LSU would have a good team. However, more to your point....do you really think the LSU defense will be as good as they have been the last three years? All of you LSU fans keep pointing out that Georgia lost 9 starters from last year and it will be horrible. But we will be returning 4-5 with a lot of experience and the Georgia defense will not be as bad as many think. (My opinion) However, the LSU defense lost just as many starters as Georgia. NEITHER defense will be bad, but I think LSU's will drop off a bit more than Georgia's will, based on how good they have been. Add to that how good the Georgia offense will be....I just think it is a good match up for Georgia.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 5:33 am to Sneakbo
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Of course people are going to pick UGA. It's a safe pick
And why would Georgia be a safe pick, pray tell?
Aren't you proving our point for us?
Posted on 7/21/13 at 5:35 am to oleheat
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And there are bound to be a couple of Georgia defenders still having nightmares that 'Kenny Hilliard is coming to get me'....
And which Georgia defenders are left from 2 years ago, pray tell?
Posted on 7/21/13 at 6:03 am to rjokerlsu
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LSU has been a pretty solid road team for the most part in the SEC in recent years
LSU has been a VERY solid team anywhere they play the past few years!
You can't take anything away from them. LSU has a solid program that will pay huge dividends for years to come. They and Alabama have great programs that produce tremendous results year in and year out. It would appear as if Georgia is inching toward having the same type results.....at least we hope we are.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 6:08 am to Wolfpacleader
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LSU has had a slightly better defense than Georgia has
Actually, I think LSU's defense has been head and shoulders above everybody else in the nation (With the exception of Alabama's)
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LSU consistently has some of, if not the, best special teams play in the nation.
And THIS is what worries me more than any other aspect. Georgia special teams are horrid. We will have an inexperienced kicker and we don't cover kicks well. THIS could be the difference in a game like this one.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 6:20 am to DawgsLife
LSU '13 DEFENSE
better than '10 - YES
better than '11 - probally not
better than '12 - DEFENITELY
At least eight possibly nine Sr/Jr starters.
Most people don't realize how young and inexperienced the LSU back seven was last year. One returning starter at LB and one a safety. This year it's four returning starters back there, two LBs, one CB and one safety.
LSU '12 defense had two TrFr starters and another six freshmen in the two deep. All eight were in the back seven. Six of them played in every game.
The back seven for '13 had two backup RFr CBs as the only frehmen on the two deep coming out of spring.
Two different TrFr started at LB. Mills (TrFR) started every game at CB and was a Fr All American. Nickle back (Collins, Fr All SEC) and dime back were both RFr.
How much better do you think those guys will be in '13?
As for the D-line. Starting four will be solid. Tigers top six (3 DTs and 3 DEs) coming out of spring were four Jrs, one So and one Fr.
In regards to the incoming '13 D-line signing class. Tigers might possibly have the best class in the SEC.
Look for LSU to have top DT tandem in the SEC, Freak and Ego.
When's the last time LSU hasn't had one of the better D-lines in the SEC? 2013 won't be an exception.
Being bama is the measuring stick for the SEC and the country. If your coach has the confidence to put you in in that game, you are a PLAYA.
LSU returns a DOZEN players that PLAYED "D" in the '12 bama game and another that was ineligible in '12 that played in the '11 game.
How many return to the uga "D" that took defensive snaps in the SECCG?
The LSU '13 defense will be the fastest that uga offense has ever faced.
better than '10 - YES
better than '11 - probally not
better than '12 - DEFENITELY
At least eight possibly nine Sr/Jr starters.
Most people don't realize how young and inexperienced the LSU back seven was last year. One returning starter at LB and one a safety. This year it's four returning starters back there, two LBs, one CB and one safety.
LSU '12 defense had two TrFr starters and another six freshmen in the two deep. All eight were in the back seven. Six of them played in every game.
The back seven for '13 had two backup RFr CBs as the only frehmen on the two deep coming out of spring.
Two different TrFr started at LB. Mills (TrFR) started every game at CB and was a Fr All American. Nickle back (Collins, Fr All SEC) and dime back were both RFr.
How much better do you think those guys will be in '13?
As for the D-line. Starting four will be solid. Tigers top six (3 DTs and 3 DEs) coming out of spring were four Jrs, one So and one Fr.
In regards to the incoming '13 D-line signing class. Tigers might possibly have the best class in the SEC.
Look for LSU to have top DT tandem in the SEC, Freak and Ego.
When's the last time LSU hasn't had one of the better D-lines in the SEC? 2013 won't be an exception.
Being bama is the measuring stick for the SEC and the country. If your coach has the confidence to put you in in that game, you are a PLAYA.
LSU returns a DOZEN players that PLAYED "D" in the '12 bama game and another that was ineligible in '12 that played in the '11 game.
How many return to the uga "D" that took defensive snaps in the SECCG?
The LSU '13 defense will be the fastest that uga offense has ever faced.
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Posted on 7/21/13 at 8:05 am to DawgsLife
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*sigh* Apparently LSU fans either cannot, or refuse to read. LSU fans keep saying that Mettenberger would "improve by a mile" because of his experience from last year. I was merely pointing out that there was a good chance that he would not.
*cough* Perhaos it's you who has some comprehension problems. I never said anything about Mett ECEPT that LSU can still win games with sub-par QB play. THAT was my point. In the SECCG LSU racked up over 200 yars an 3 tds rushing. Will UGA's young defense be able to stop LSU's rushing game?
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However, more to your point....do you really think the LSU defense will be as good as they have been the last three years?
That's actually less to my point, but I do think LSU's defense will be improved over last year. Two games were lost on late 4th quarter drives where the passing game was taking advantage of our freshman CBs. We won't have freshman CBs this year. The DL will be strong, but maybe not as deep as last year, but the LB corps should be able to plug the gaps to stop UGA's running game.
I'm really looking forward to this early season matchup, you won't find me complaining about LSU having to play Georgia this year. Georgia is my second favorite SEC team. I always enjoy this game. These two teams have historically been extremely close.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 9:31 am to 167back
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167back
Stop posting facts don't you know we are gonna suck because we lost everyone?.
I am dumbfounded that everyone has ran with this train of thought. We have top recruiting classes, one of the best DC in the country, full of talent, yet we are gonna suck on defense and Ole Miss and everyone else is gonna beat us.
This is not even counting the improvements on offense. I can't wait for the season to get here!
Posted on 7/21/13 at 9:33 am to Lsupimp
LSU. We always play well in the state of GA. 
Posted on 7/21/13 at 11:06 am to WildTchoupitoulas
So it is your opinion, after losing so many defensive players from last year that the LSU defense will be better? Wonder why they didn't just jettison all of those bad players and just start THIS group of guys. I mean, Simon, Montgomery, Reid, Minter and Mingo? They had 6 players drafted in the first three rounds of the NFL Draft. Awful. Shouldn't be any trouble at all replacing them and being better. Just because a defense let LSU down in the fourth quarter last season does not translate into them being better this year. They have a TON of talent to replace.
However, if you read my post I said "apparently some LSU fans"....not necessarily meaning you particularly. One of the fans said that it would be reasonable to assume Mettenberger would improve by a mile because of the new coach.
I agree 100% with you. This will be a classic matchup. Truthfully? I THINK Georgia can win, but I am keeping my fingers crossed....tightly. Great matchups coming our way with Georgia/LSU, A&M/Alabama, LSU/Alabama, Ga./Fla.....man....the matchups just keep on coming. It's great to be in the SEC where there is a big conference matchup every week end!
However, if you read my post I said "apparently some LSU fans"....not necessarily meaning you particularly. One of the fans said that it would be reasonable to assume Mettenberger would improve by a mile because of the new coach.
I agree 100% with you. This will be a classic matchup. Truthfully? I THINK Georgia can win, but I am keeping my fingers crossed....tightly. Great matchups coming our way with Georgia/LSU, A&M/Alabama, LSU/Alabama, Ga./Fla.....man....the matchups just keep on coming. It's great to be in the SEC where there is a big conference matchup every week end!
Posted on 7/21/13 at 11:09 am to offshoretrash
The only thing that might derail LSU is your schedule. It's brutal. It would be tough for anybody to make their way through it.
TCU, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, A&M.....VERY tough schedule. To me, the telling game will be TCU. That will give you a good indication how your offense will be this year. TCU has a brutal defense. LSU wins by 14, I think, but we'll see how good your Offense is in that game.
TCU, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, A&M.....VERY tough schedule. To me, the telling game will be TCU. That will give you a good indication how your offense will be this year. TCU has a brutal defense. LSU wins by 14, I think, but we'll see how good your Offense is in that game.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 11:19 am to TyOconner
Since 2013 Lsu has won 3 games in the state of Georgia and Georgia has won 2 games. I would hardly say LSU ALWAYS plays well in Georgia...at least against Georgia. On the other hand, it would be hard to argue that there is a clear home field advantage because the game is being played in Georgia.
Since 1990 Georgia leads the series 3-1 while played in Athens, though. The only victory for LSU in Athens since 1990 was in a year in which Georgia's record was 7-5 and LSU finished 9-3. Score? 20-13. Any way to slice it, it will be a war out there when they meet.
Since 1990 Georgia leads the series 3-1 while played in Athens, though. The only victory for LSU in Athens since 1990 was in a year in which Georgia's record was 7-5 and LSU finished 9-3. Score? 20-13. Any way to slice it, it will be a war out there when they meet.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 11:31 am to DawgsLife
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So it is your opinion, after losing so many defensive players from last year that the LSU defense will be better?
Statistically, yes. They will be greatly improved in the secondary, while dropping off on the DL only due to experienced depth. The LB corps may be considered improved even though Minter is gone, there will be better depth.
I also see LSU's defensive coaching as better than UGA's. But again, the defenses don't play against one another, so it doesn't matter who's is better, what matters is how each matches up against the offenses they will play against. If the LBs are as good and deep as I think they will be, and the secondary is improved, the depth on the DL won't be too hard to overcome. The trick will be for the LBs to step up and help a, RELATIVLY thin - but very talented - LSU DL stop Georgia's running game, and have the improved secondary shut down the pass.
When LSU is on offense the trick will be to run right at UGA's defense with a massive OL and a bevvy of backs. I don't see LSU changing much on offense. Look for them to run the ball for 3 quarters if the game is close. If they can average 1-2 yds in the 1st, 2-3 yards in the 2nd and 3-4 yards in the 3rd, it will be an indication that your defense is tiring. Then look foor big runs in the 4th. If UGA can hold LSU's running game in check through 3 qtrs (< 3 ypc), it'll be put in the hands of Mett and a hopefully improved receiving corps in the 4th. That will be the test. My concern therre is the pass protection on the OL. That game against Clemson was U-G-L-Y in that regard.
If UGA can hold LSU under 3 ypc and force them to throw in the fourth qtr, and get pressure on Mett, they will win with any kind of production on offense. If both defenses shut the offenses down, it'll come own to special teams in the 4th.
I have spoken.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 11:35 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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The trick will be for the LBs to step up and help a, RELATIVLY thin - but very talented - LSU DL stop Georgia's running game, and have the improved secondary shut down the pass.
Both will be tough to do. Our running game will be tough to slow down if everyone is healthy.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 11:39 am to DawgsLife
Did you read what I posted earlier about the LSU "D" going into '13?
Even with ALL those losses on defense LSU still RETURNS OVER 50% of it's total tackles. Can the dawgs say the same?
LSU returns over 50% of it's picks. How bout them dawgs?
LSU returns 50% of it's passes defended. How bout uga?
The only position group on the LSU "D" to sustain major losses was the D-line. The only thing I will mention about that is LSU is called D-LINE U for a reason.
LSU will be so much more experienced in the back seven in '13 it's no comparison to what it had in '12. Tigers had two returning starters back there in '12 and eight freshmen in the two deep. In '13 it's up to four returning starters and only two freshmen in the two deep.
Simon's experience will be missed somewhat, not his cover skills. He was the nickle back in '11 and '12 was his first as a starter.
Reid had a much better season in '11. His '12 season wasn't anything special. Loston will put up better numbers this year than what Reid had in '12.
Minter had a great season no doubt. It was said after the '11 season tigers would be hard pressed to replace MLB Kelvin Shepard. Minter stepped up. Minter's replacement for '13 will be Barrow. He just so happened to have OVER 100 tackles in '12.
Just like Reid, M & M had much better seasons in '11. What they produced in '12 will be topped by Rasco and Hunter at DE. At DT Freak and Ego will be the best tandem in the SEC.
That's why LSU fans are saying the '13 defense will be better than '12. The big three had less than stellar seasons in '12 compared to '11. What the LSU "D" brings to the table in '13 will be better than '12, MUCH MORE experience in the back seven.
Not better than '11 though.
Even with ALL those losses on defense LSU still RETURNS OVER 50% of it's total tackles. Can the dawgs say the same?
LSU returns over 50% of it's picks. How bout them dawgs?
LSU returns 50% of it's passes defended. How bout uga?
The only position group on the LSU "D" to sustain major losses was the D-line. The only thing I will mention about that is LSU is called D-LINE U for a reason.
LSU will be so much more experienced in the back seven in '13 it's no comparison to what it had in '12. Tigers had two returning starters back there in '12 and eight freshmen in the two deep. In '13 it's up to four returning starters and only two freshmen in the two deep.
Simon's experience will be missed somewhat, not his cover skills. He was the nickle back in '11 and '12 was his first as a starter.
Reid had a much better season in '11. His '12 season wasn't anything special. Loston will put up better numbers this year than what Reid had in '12.
Minter had a great season no doubt. It was said after the '11 season tigers would be hard pressed to replace MLB Kelvin Shepard. Minter stepped up. Minter's replacement for '13 will be Barrow. He just so happened to have OVER 100 tackles in '12.
Just like Reid, M & M had much better seasons in '11. What they produced in '12 will be topped by Rasco and Hunter at DE. At DT Freak and Ego will be the best tandem in the SEC.
That's why LSU fans are saying the '13 defense will be better than '12. The big three had less than stellar seasons in '12 compared to '11. What the LSU "D" brings to the table in '13 will be better than '12, MUCH MORE experience in the back seven.
Not better than '11 though.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 11:44 am to DawgsLife
We haven't played any games in '13 yet. care to clarify?
This year's schedule is no worst than last year.
gators - cocks - aggies and tide. All in a row I might add.
This year's schedule is no worst than last year.
gators - cocks - aggies and tide. All in a row I might add.
This post was edited on 7/21/13 at 11:47 am
Posted on 7/21/13 at 11:45 am to Roger Klarvin
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Good defense versus an unknown and previously poor offense
What makes you think Georgia's defense will be good? They lost 7 starters.
Just to put that in perspective, LSU lost 6 starters, and you call LSU's defense "unknown."
Here's a good read. Before you click, ask yourself if you can name a single Georgia defender.
LINK
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