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re: Who was the most dominant heisman trophy winner in the SEC?

Posted on 5/17/18 at 7:04 pm to
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 7:04 pm to
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Damontre Moore.

Consensus 1st team all American too

That dude was in our backfield all day. Think he had 5 sacks.
A&M actually had a top 25 defense that season.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 7:12 pm to
Recently it would be Cam and Tebow. Cam has the best single year and Tebow has the better career. If Newton didn’t get kicked off the Gator team then he may have played more years and had the better career.Johnny is overrated. He had the talent around him and still never won anything.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 7:24 pm to
Tebow
Posted by BarnHardU
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 7:53 pm to
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Tim Tebow generated more offense and more TDs than Newton in their respective Heisman years.
And had a more talented team with more weapons; and could only manage 9 wins. With better coaching, too.
Posted by BarnHardU
Member since Oct 2016
111 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 7:55 pm to
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False, McCaleb, Adams, Reed, Ziemba, and Mosley all played in the league.

Define “played,” because none of them made an impact. Sure some were on rosters and there were maybe a few starts collectively.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:30 pm to
2007 lost 10 of 11 starters off defense, plus a couple key backups. Top WR and TE both left. True freshman starting on the OL and at CB. DT depth was so bad Mike Pouncey was getting rotated in by the end of the year.

That year was a total rebuild and Mullen was still training OTJ. Took until the Cocktail Party in 05 to adapt the offense to Leak, took until Arkansas in 08 to maximize the backfield with Tebow.

2007 Florida was explosive but incredibly young. Still can't believe they hung with LSU that year in what was, for my money, the best conference game I've ever seen played.
This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 8:31 pm
Posted by BarnHardU
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:43 pm to
Percy Hardin
Andre Caldwell
Cornelius Ingram
Carlos Dunlap
Tim Tebow
Chris Rainey
Louis Murphy
Joe Haden
Cam Newton
Major Wright
Brandon James
Ahmad Black
Ryan Stamper
Jermaine Cunningham
Brandon Spikes
Maurkice Pouncy
Mike Pouncy
Marcus Gilbert
Aaron Hernandez
Riley Cooper
Derrick Harvey

Young or not, Auburn’s overall 2010 roster can’t hold a candle to 2007 Florida.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 9:04 pm to
Half those players you listed were true freshmen or true sophomores with very little game experience. Joe Haden hadn't played CB since Pop Warner and was a Day 1 starter

It's no secret the 06 and 07 recruiting classes made the 08 and 09 Gators some of the most talented teams in modern history, but you can't seriously say with a straight face that if you swap Tebow for Newton they'd win a title.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 9:15 pm to
Cam newton. He took a 7 win team to a national title. That's the best dam college football player I ever saw. Ever.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73492 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 9:23 pm to
Tebow
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15794 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 9:30 pm to
Wade Christopher would destroy all of these players
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 9:44 pm to
Without Mark Ingram, Alabama’s 2009 squad is a 7 win team.

Cupboard was super bare that year.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 9:55 pm to
Tebow over Cam and Manziel, for the time factor and the title factor. He dominated longer than Cam, and won a national title, which Manziel didn't manage.
Posted by bigman334
Member since Jul 2013
2417 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:31 pm to
I'd go with Walker. defenses knew he was getting it and he'd still somehow get through holes. once he turned the corner, it was game over
Posted by DannyB
Bagram, Afghanistan
Member since Aug 2010
6141 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:14 am to
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I'd go with Walker. defenses knew he was getting it and he'd still somehow get through holes. once he turned the corner, it was game over


You can say the same thing about Cam. In short yardage situations everyone knew Cam was going to keep the ball and go right off center and no one could stop him.

1a. Cam
1b. Herschel
2. Tebow
3. Bo
4. Manziel
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:18 am to
BILLY CANNON PERIOD!!!
Posted by Croomismyname
Member since Aug 2017
310 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:24 am to
For those old enough to have seen Herschel and Bo...it would be between them.
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22091 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:27 am to
Most people here are not old enough to remember H. Walker play. He was the best I’ve ever seen. He had no help either - it was all him.

Cam was great but he had some really good players around him.

Kinda hard to bring up different eras with this crowd. Too many people never saw others play.
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 9:30 am
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:31 am to
Easy call. Cam. Most dominant player maybe ever in college football for a single season.

Dude was unstoppable and carried an AU team that was probably in the bottom half of its own division without him (LSU, Bama, Arky were all better and AU would have been #4) to an undefeated national championship season. Not many SEC national championship teams go undefeated. Not only did AU go undefeated, they did it against the best SEC west in the history of the SEC, ending the season on the road against a fired up bama team that is one of the most talented bama has ever had. Oh yeah, they set an SECCG record for the biggest blowout, then went out West to play undefeated #1 Oregon who blew out everyone all season. And they even beat a very good Clemson as an out of conference opponent.

That AU team loses 4 games without Cam.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:31 am to
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