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re: Who Gets the Last Spot?
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:34 am to gamecockman12
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:34 am to gamecockman12
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You just can't put Ole Miss in there with a home loss to Kentucky and a loss to UF.
SC lost the head to head to both Bama and OM.
SC ended the year hot, but at some point the H2H actually has to matter.
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:37 am to ValueTiger
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Which leaves BAMA, SC, Miami, and Ole Miss left to claim the 12th spot.
Who SHOULD get the last spot? And who do you think WILL get it?
I agree. There is 1 spot left.
11-2 SMU is in if they lose a close game to Clemson
then
10-2 Miami
9-3 Alabama
9-3 Ole Miss
9-3 South Carolina
I want South Carolina to take that spot, but I don't see how they pull it off since they lost to Alabama and Ole Miss.
I think it's 10-2 Miami or 9-3 Alabama.
I think ESPN will tell them to pick Alabama for TV ratings.. right or wrong.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:38 am to REBEL5 AC
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How can you put USC in with a blowout loss to OM at home?
SC only has losses to good teams (Bama, Ole Miss, and LSU). Ole Miss has TWO bad losses. The loss at home to Kentucky at home is a beyond bad loss.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:38 am to BigBro
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I think ESPN will tell them to pick Alabama for TV ratings.. right or wrong.
I'd say there's no doubt Alabama is better than Miami, so in that sense, it'd be "right" to put them in over the Hurricanes.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:39 am to OleVaught14
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SC lost the head to head to both Bama and OM.
SC ended the year hot, but at some point the H2H actually has to matter
It definitely matters, but so does the entire body of work. Both Bama and OM have two bad losses (OU/Vanderbilt and Kentucky/Florida). SC has only lost to good teams (Bama/OM/LSU).
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:40 am to ValueTiger
Would be pretty cruel to leave out SMU for playing an extra game after going 11–1, winning most games in blowout fashion and only loss coming by 3 points to a top 15-20 BYU team
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:41 am to FootballFrenzy
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Bama because of H2H over SCar and brand.
That brand lost to VANDERBILT and got skull drug by OU.... so bama doesn't deserve to do anything regarding the CFP except hand out programs.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:41 am to gamecockman12
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definitely matters, but so does the entire body of work. Both Bama and OM have two bad losses (OU/Vanderbilt and Kentucky/Florida). SC has only lost to good teams (Bama/OM/LSU).
Both Bama and OM have better wins though. So what's more important to the committee - avoiding bad losses or having top tier wins? I don't think anyone really has the answer to that at the moment.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:41 am to gamecockman12
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It definitely matters, but so does the entire body of work. Both
The committee has shown to only care about head to head tiebreakers
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:43 am to mmmmmbeeer
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SMU if they lose to Clemson (Clemson gets auto-bid as ACCC) Bama if SMU wins
Who has SMU beaten to deserve going in as a two loss team? I’d love for Bama to get left out but I don’t really see SMU’s merit at this point
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:49 am to GreatPumpkin
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Who has SMU beaten to deserve going in as a two loss team? I’d love for Bama to get left out but I don’t really see SMU’s merit at this point
This committee doesn’t care about SoS. They say it’s a factor but then say that teams can only play the schedule they’re dealt. Indiana has no right to being a CFP team, but they’ve only lost once so they’re in.
This committee sucks, is my point. They basically just look at records and h2h. Scores, SoS, injuries, bad calls, etc…none of that matters. A 1 loss team is better than a 2 loss team (see UGA and Texas). The way they’re running this we could’ve just sat 13 passionate 7th graders in a conference room and gotten better output.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:49 am to Utah_CUtiger
A 10-2 BYU fan should subjectively be in the conversation too with their Top 10 win over SMU. They won’t be, but should be
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:49 am to FootballFrenzy
Perfect Solution. 16 Teams.
1 Oregon vs 16 Colorado
8 SMU vs 9 Alabama
4 Notre Dame vs 13 Miami
5 Georgia vs 12 South Carolina
2 Texas vs 15 Arizona State
7 Ohio State vs 10 Boise State
3 Penn State vs 14 Indiana
6 Tennessee vs 11 Ole Miss
I kept the Top 8 the same as the AP. I tried to match up the next 8 teams to create the best matchups.
1 Oregon vs 16 Colorado
8 SMU vs 9 Alabama
4 Notre Dame vs 13 Miami
5 Georgia vs 12 South Carolina
2 Texas vs 15 Arizona State
7 Ohio State vs 10 Boise State
3 Penn State vs 14 Indiana
6 Tennessee vs 11 Ole Miss
I kept the Top 8 the same as the AP. I tried to match up the next 8 teams to create the best matchups.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:49 am to FootballFrenzy
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I'd say there's no doubt Alabama is better than Miami
According to what?
-Bama is middle of the pack in the SEC for offensive yards per game (they're behind Arkansas and Auburn) and this accounts for their non-conference cupcake games too
-Bama lost to 2 .500 squads, one by 21 points where they didn't score a TD and gave up 250 yards rushing
-Bama is not among the SEC leaders in passing, behind Auburn and Arkansas as well
-Bama is only among the SEC leaders in rushing on the back of Milroe's performances against LSU, first half against Georgia, Auburn, and their cupcake games
-Bama is not among the league leaders in sacks nor yards allowed
-the stats say Bama only gave up 17 ppg but Bama has given up 34, 35, 25, and 24 twice during the season and all in SEC competition
-Bama gives up an average of 140 rush yards per game, ranking near the bottom of the league
So in what world is Bama "no doubt" better than Miami again? there's no doubt Ward's better than Milroe at actually playing the QB position
This post was edited on 12/2/24 at 9:51 am
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:50 am to IMSA_Fan
That’s true. BYU actually has a pretty good resume and good metrics. But they won’t even be talked about as a bubble team and will be behind several 3 loss teams
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:50 am to Gen Patton
Based on SOS.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:53 am to mmmmmbeeer
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This committee doesn’t care about SoS. They say it’s a factor but then say that teams can only play the schedule they’re dealt. Indiana has no right to being a CFP team, but they’ve only lost once so they’re in. This committee sucks, is my point. They basically just look at records and h2h. Scores, SoS, injuries, bad calls, etc…none of that matters. A 1 loss team is better than a 2 loss team (see UGA and Texas). The way they’re running this we could’ve just sat 13 passionate 7th graders in a conference room and gotten better output.
They don’t seem to value it nearly as much as they should
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:53 am to OleVaught14
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Both Bama and OM have better wins though. So what's more important to the committee - avoiding bad losses or having top tier wins? I don't think anyone really has the answer to that at the moment.
Just like South Carolina has a better SOS and Strength of Record rank than Ole Miss. You can definitely pick and choose any metric. Each team has a legit argument. Ultimately, I think Bama will get it just based off their brand.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:54 am to FootballFrenzy
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Based on SOS.
Thought this was a matter of picking the best teams. Also, SOS doesn't control for blowing a 28-point lead at home and getting saved by Ryan Williams on a 50-50 throw and doesn't control for playing Mizzou without Brady Cook due to injury. I used to think SOS mattered to an extent but without context to any of these games, not too material to anything IMO.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:57 am to Landmass
Ole Miss should be behind Bama and South Carolina.
You can’t give Kentucky their only conference win of the year and it be a home game and expect to be a playoff team. Then lose to an 8-4 LSU team and with everything on the line lose to a 7-5 Florida team.
OM has two wins in GA and SC. The loss to Kentucky is way worse than either of those wins are good
You can’t give Kentucky their only conference win of the year and it be a home game and expect to be a playoff team. Then lose to an 8-4 LSU team and with everything on the line lose to a 7-5 Florida team.
OM has two wins in GA and SC. The loss to Kentucky is way worse than either of those wins are good
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