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re: Who, among all the new HC hires, will most likely still be there in five years?
Posted on 12/9/17 at 4:58 pm to GatorBait24
Posted on 12/9/17 at 4:58 pm to GatorBait24
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If McElwain doesn’t say anything about death threats he is still our coach. I’m not sure why you think he was fired for on field performance.
It's all for the better. UF is probably better off and McElwain certainly will be. The Florida head coaching job has to be one of the most overrated positions in the coaching profession.
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:09 pm to higgs_boson
Fisher. Because A&M will stick with a 7and 5 coach for years.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:12 pm to higgs_boson
If y'all think the A&M big money people can't pass the hat and get rid of Jimbo whenever they want, then y'all are truly naive.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:14 pm to higgs_boson
Morris will be here in 5 years without a doubt. Lol. I mean, we kept our worst coach in history for 5 years.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:24 pm to higgs_boson
I think Morris gets a pass on the first year given how bad the team was this year. 4 years seems doable after that unless we are a complete dumpster fire.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:36 pm to Arksulli
That is a good point. I was not commenting on how successful the coaches will be, but what other factors might make them more or less likely to be around for five years.
I do not know the details of the Morris contract, but I doubt Arkansas is pot committed in the way A&M is.
Did the current Arkansas AD shape or help a lot in the HC search or was it mostly done before the AD got involved?
I do not know the details of the Morris contract, but I doubt Arkansas is pot committed in the way A&M is.
Did the current Arkansas AD shape or help a lot in the HC search or was it mostly done before the AD got involved?
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:44 pm to higgs_boson
We are not, as you called it, "pot committed" to Morris at all. He has a nice contract, but I think he's only gonna be making around 3.5 million.
If you believe Arkansas actually gave Malzahn an official offer, they were willing to pay that guy 7.
Arkansas is keeping quite a bit of money for a defensive coordinator hire.
If you believe Arkansas actually gave Malzahn an official offer, they were willing to pay that guy 7.
Arkansas is keeping quite a bit of money for a defensive coordinator hire.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:45 pm to higgs_boson
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That is a good point. I was not commenting on how successful the coaches will be, but what other factors might make them more or less likely to be around for five years.
I do not know the details of the Morris contract, but I doubt Arkansas is pot committed in the way A&M is.
Did the current Arkansas AD shape or help a lot in the HC search or was it mostly done before the AD got involved?
Despite what everyone said at first... it was mostly done by our then interim AD Julie "da Hammer" Cromer Peoples. Surprisingly everything points to Gus as the first option, which was expected, but Morris as the second.
I really expected Norvell to be the second option in a big way but evidently it was Morris all along.
In a way though... that could hurt Morris. While our new AD signed off on it, if Morris stumbles badly the first couple of seasons he can be let go and our AD can shift the blame. I do think Morris goes at least 5 seasons at Arkansas though.
Next year's schedule, by our standards, is easy. Which is to say most teams in CFB would throw a fit over having to play it. A team with a pulse makes a bowl game. We have a good class coming up in instate football recruits.
There is the potential to do well the next two or three years and get some momentum going. The important thing is... Morris has to beat A&M for the Texas recruits and he can't have a ULM/Toledo type loss while he is getting things started.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:46 pm to meansonny
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You still believe that he made it up for attention.
That's fair. You can believe what you want.
I know how stupid fans are. I've been on these boards for about 8 years. The one in a million happens when you are dealing with fans.
You can support your coach or bury him. UF fans hated the shark jokes. They buried their coach in the same fashion as Tennessee and Schiano. Congrats on sitting at the same table as Tennessee fans.
None of that made sense.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:48 pm to starsandstripes
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None of that made sense.
Don't read it. That is the path to madness.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:52 pm to starsandstripes
Correct answer is Mullen AND Moorehead
Both will do exceptionally well.
I mean this seriously, I'm worried Jimbo may not live another 5 years. He looks awful. That said, a new environment, a new woman (that hopefully isn't out to bang everything with a penis), may totally turn him around.
Pruitt seems like the type that will have some fiery, explosive scandal. I think Fulmer really screwed the pooch.
The place to watch is UCLA. I believe Chip Kelly is out of football in 5 years. He'll have put UCLA on probation and the NFL will be tired of his act.
Both will do exceptionally well.
I mean this seriously, I'm worried Jimbo may not live another 5 years. He looks awful. That said, a new environment, a new woman (that hopefully isn't out to bang everything with a penis), may totally turn him around.
Pruitt seems like the type that will have some fiery, explosive scandal. I think Fulmer really screwed the pooch.
The place to watch is UCLA. I believe Chip Kelly is out of football in 5 years. He'll have put UCLA on probation and the NFL will be tired of his act.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:55 pm to starsandstripes
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Pruitt seems like the type that will have some fiery, explosive scandal. I think Fulmer really screwed the pooch.
The place to watch is UCLA. I believe Chip Kelly is out of football in 5 years. He'll have put UCLA on probation and the NFL will be tired of his act.
Yup on both counts.
Pruitt was a bad hire. Chip Kelly is gonna bury the entire UCLA program.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 6:06 pm to Arksulli
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There is the potential to do well the next two or three years and get some momentum going. The important thing is... Morris has to beat A&M for the Texas recruits and he can't have a ULM/Toledo type loss while he is getting things started.
I think Morris is a good hire. I especially think that it will be great for Arky if he can some of the Texas recruits.
The topic line of this thread was truncated a bit. I was really thinking more in terms of structural issues and the political situations that made some coaches more likely to be around, not so much the product on the field.
I actually think Moorehead is the least likely to be around. Unlike the other hires, Miss State had no choice about searching for new coach, they did not fire their HC.
As far as Pruitt, I do not know if it is true, but if he did go to Richt's house for a confrontation, I am not sure how well that type of behavior would work at Tenn. Also who knows how quickly Fulmer leaves or falls out of favor as the AD. I would think a future AD would be highly critical of the coaching search at TEnn in general and that might also work against him.
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 12/9/17 at 6:10 pm to Nissanmaxima
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Regardless of what Fisher does A&M is sticking with him like they did with Sumlin. I for one am desperately pleading with God that Fisher struggles.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 6:13 pm to higgs_boson
When Saban retires all the coaches will start to look a little better.
Tennessee kept Butch way long and Arkansas kept Bert way to long. I’m sure they will keep their new coaches to long as well.
Jimbo’s contract makes him the most likely to stay the longest.
Tennessee kept Butch way long and Arkansas kept Bert way to long. I’m sure they will keep their new coaches to long as well.
Jimbo’s contract makes him the most likely to stay the longest.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 6:38 pm to higgs_boson
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As far as Pruitt, I do not know if it is true, but if he did go to Richt's house for a confrontation, I am not sure how well that type of behavior would work at Tenn. Also who knows how quickly Fulmer leaves or falls out of favor as the AD. I would think a future AD would be highly critical of the coaching search at TEnn in general and that might also work against him.
I do think the uncertainty at Tenn works against Pruitt. At this point we have no idea what Fulmer is going to be like as an AD. Is he going to be hands off or is he going to be there at every practice looking over a rookie head coach's shoulder?
Posted on 12/9/17 at 6:40 pm to higgs_boson
Morris might leave after 3 straight Championship seasons. Bama will be after him badddddd.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:06 pm to higgs_boson
I say Pruitt, and even if the question was 10 years from now, I'd still say Pruitt. Fulmer will do whatever he can to prevent his AD job from being termed a failure, even if its to just get Pruitt to a winning season after 10 years.....
#justPruitt......
#justPruitt......
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:10 pm to higgs_boson
Laws of inertia imply Bert might still be near Fayetteville in 5 years.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:16 pm to higgs_boson
Jimbo will still be there in five years
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