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re: Who actually deserved to be in the playoffs? Bama, Ole Miss or USCe.

Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:43 pm to
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Yes, it's always better to lose by 2 points than to win.



fricking retard.




Yall have changed the criteria over and over and over again.


Hell even back to the BCS in 2011 yalls biggest argument was yall lost to the best team only by 3. Back then it was "best loss". Yall couldnt have done it without us.


Last year yall made it over an undefeated team because that undefeated team had a hurt player. Well USC's qb was injured in 1 loss and in his first games back in the next two losses. Clearly not 100%

In 2017 you went over a regular season undefeated Wisconsin team who actually played in their championship game and lost while you sat at home because of eyetest.



I can make multiple arguments for USCe using yalls criteria from various years.


The biggest criteria that they dont have is the script A.

It is what it is.
Posted by Rebelinexile
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:44 pm to
24-3 loss at home to Ole Miss isn’t a bad loss ?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:44 pm to
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Still, the answer is none of them.


100%

It's ridiculous we are even having this conversation.

Not to mention we are arguing over 3 teams that actually played tough schedules while there are no less than 3 teams ahead of them all who haven't played anyone, and have lost when they did.

SMU has played 1 top25 team(17) and lost.
Indiana played 1 top25 team and lost.
Penn St has 1 win over #21, lost to the top10 team they played.
Texas played 1 top 25 team and lost(A&M is top20 in F+ though).
Boise St played 1 top25 team and lost

None of these teams has actually demonstrated an ability to beat top teams.

Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34756 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:44 pm to
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Bama, sure....they got trounced at OU.......but they'd still be favored over USC at a neutral site.



.....they only won by 2 at home with a recovering LaNorris Sellers. Home field advantage is considered to be 3 points.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:46 pm to
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I agree. However, in the next 10 years we will all grow to love it. It will never be the same football again but seeing a Boise upset a top team in the first round or a 3 loss SEC team win it all will keep us all interested


It also keeps things interesting because as is the case now you have teams in the running who lost 2 or 3 games. As opposed to losing two early and knowing no matter what happens they are out.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:46 pm to
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Hell even back to the BCS in 2011 yalls biggest argument was yall lost to the best team only by 3. Back then it was "best loss". Yall couldnt have done it without us.


I forgot it came down to LSU and Bama for the last spot in 2011...oh wait, it was between Bama and a team that they didn't play that year. How is that similar to this year? If Bama had gotten in over LSU who beat them and had the same record this might make sense.

Posted by PappyGarcia
Member since Oct 2024
486 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:46 pm to
Let's change the narrative. South Carolina beats Alabama by 2 points 2 months ago at home and then looks like warm dog crap the next 6 weeks, meanwhile Bama rattles off 6 straight. Who is in the playoffs in that scenario? I think we all know the answer.
Posted by Toneski
Member since Jan 2013
379 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:46 pm to
Those saying SC shouldn’t be ranked above teams they lost to, then why was Tennessee ranked below Bama after losing their 2nd game (to Georgia) even though they had beaten Bama weeks prior? Both Bama and UT had 2 losses at the time.

Apparently, it’s when you lose in season that matters. We’ve always known this. I don’t know why people suddenly think a team can’t be ranked above a team it lost to - it’s happened thousands of times in the past.
Posted by NickPapageorgio
Yuma, AZ
Member since Oct 2014
851 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:47 pm to
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.....they only won by 2 at home with a recovering LaNorris Sellers. Home field advantage is considered to be 3 points.


Bama would still be favored if they were playing in Atlanta this weekend.



Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34756 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:48 pm to
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Bama and a team that they didn't play that year. How is that similar to this year?



And the argument was best loss.


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If Bama had gotten in over LSU who beat them and had the same record this might make sense.




USCe has the best losses. 2011 Bama also ended up with less wins than 2011 LSU, lost at home to LSU and the 2011 LSU bama series is tied 1-1 but I digress.
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:48 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:49 pm to
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then looks like warm dog crap the next 6 weeks,


Alabama went 4-2 over the 6 weeks after Carolina with one of their losses being a one score loss on the road to #7 Tennessee. They also beat #19 Missouri by 34 and beat 8-4 LSU by 29 on the road. Gave Auburn their 2nd worst loss of the season (14) (UGA by 18 was the worst).

They played like warm dog crap for.........1 game. Not 6. Your point is idiotic and flatly untrue.
Posted by Darindawg
Member since May 2022
3161 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:49 pm to
Well, its hard to overlook that Bama lose to a Vandy team that finished 6-6 and got trashed by a mediocre Oky team.

No one is forgiving Ole Miss for the UK loss, but they beat us (UGA) alot worse than Bama. We came back in the 2nd half and nearly beat Bama.

SC is a pretty hot team right now. They loss the head-to-head with Bama, but again, Bama lost to Vandy who earlier in the season lost to Georgia State....whoa. Nobody is talking about that.

So, I'm going with SC.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9694 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:50 pm to
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Bama, Ole Miss or USCe


Well one of these lost to both the other two, so take them out. I think OM is probably better than Bama, but Bama rightly or wrongly seems to get the benefit of the doubt more than most teams.
Posted by PappyGarcia
Member since Oct 2024
486 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:50 pm to
Late losses should count more. Bama moved up 2 spots beating shitty Auburn after train wrecking at OU a week earlier. We moved up one spot with the best win of the week on a 6 game winning streak. Tells you all you need to know. Hell, Miami lost 2 of their last 3 to unranked teams and had 2 games given to them and they were still ranked ahead of an SEC team that beat 4 top 25 teams in the last 6 weeks.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105102 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:51 pm to
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Those saying SC shouldn’t be ranked above teams they lost to, then why was Tennessee ranked below Bama after losing their 2nd game (to Georgia) even though they had beaten Bama weeks prior? Both Bama and UT had 2 losses at the time.


Tennessee had 1 road loss to a top 15 team and 1 road loss to a 6-6 team

Alabama had 1 road loss to a top 15 team and 1 road loss to a 6-6 team.

Tennessee had 1 ranked win. Alabama had 4 ranked wins.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34756 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:51 pm to
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Let's change the narrative. South Carolina beats Alabama by 2 points 2 months ago at home and then looks like warm dog crap the next 6 weeks, meanwhile Bama rattles off 6 straight. Who is in the playoffs in that scenario? I think we all know the answer.





100% this. Literally if you change the logo next to the resume EVERYONE knows what the argument would be.




Frankly I dont really care. Bama going simply maintains the current order. Frankly it prevents Bama from moving on from Milroe so its probably a net win. Im just pointing out the hypocrisy of Bama fans.
Posted by PappyGarcia
Member since Oct 2024
486 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:51 pm to
We would boatrace Tennessee. And also getting spanked at OU and losing to Vandy makes your whole season warm dog crap.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:51 pm to
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Let's change the narrative. South Carolina beats Alabama by 2 points 2 months ago at home and then looks like warm dog crap the next 6 weeks, meanwhile Bama rattles off 6 straight. Who is in the playoffs in that scenario? I think we all know the answer.


It's weird how good USC got the day after they lost to Alabama.

Alabama would not go in that scenario because of the H2H.

I don't know why you think you can just make up some scenario and then pretend like it's going to go the other way. Are you claiming in that scenario you would say Alabama should be the one to go? frick no. You're just making up bullshite to claim it's bias rather than admitting to the basic fact you frickING LOST.

Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34756 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:52 pm to
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Tennessee had 1 ranked win. Alabama had 4 ranked wins.


So head to head matters....until it doesnt then its whatever the next argument is that supports bama being ranked higher
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