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re: Which SEC team claims the least % of bogus titles in football?

Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:56 pm to
Posted by Arzrbkfan
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:56 pm to
now why would you say something this stupid? Could it because Bama lost. Bama has never played a game that didn't matter to them. As many as Bama has actually won, it's just sounds real aggie like for you to claim that one.
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles, California
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:57 pm to
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They’re all bogus. The NCAA, college football’s only long-standing governing body never awarded them. And now they’re dead. It’s been 100+ years of pageants and invitationals. The AP poll has never been the Authority, neither has the coaches poll. It’s A POLL.

There’s no formula, no tournament, no pennant.

Very, very true.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22551 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:01 pm to
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now why would you say something this stupid? Could it because Bama lost. Bama has never played a game that didn't matter to them. As many as Bama has actually won, it's just sounds real aggie like for you to claim that one.


Because that was the reality.

The only reason they changed it after 1964 was because Alabama won. And then in 1965, the opposite happened. If they had awarded the title before the bowls happened, Arkansas would have been the national champion. But because of 1964, they changed it. Alabama won it's bowl game, Arkansas lost theirs. Alabama was awarded the national championship.

And then the next year they changed it back to before bowl games, before changing it back again a few years later.

The coaches poll didn't change their way until the early 1970s.

This is just the history and the way things were done.

Hell Notre Dame didn't even play in bowl games at all until the late 60s. They weren't considered real games.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:03 pm to
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1942 is LEGIT for UGA....the Dawgs were the CONSENSUS national champions.

UGA finished 11-1 in 1942 and were Rose Bowl Champions. Ohio State finished 9-1 (they didn't go to a bowl game that season.

Both teams played 3 ranked opponents: UGA defeated all 3 ranked opponents (#3 Alabama, #2 Georgia Tech, and #13 UCLA); Ohio State defeated 2 ranked opponents (#13 Illinois, #4 Michigan) and lost to one ranked opponent (#6 Wisconsin).

Back in those days, the AP poll did not hold the importance and consideration over other NCAA-sanctioned polls like it began to take on in the 1960's and 1970's and up to the present.

Your standards by which you make these distinctions are faulty and and not accurate.


I don't think you know what the word consensus means.

Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15865 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:06 pm to
1938 11-0 season and beat OU in the bowl

1950 11-1 lost a week 2 game only top 5 to win their bowl

1998 13-0 BCS title

The only titles the Vols Claim.
Posted by Arzrbkfan
Member since Jul 2022
242 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:10 pm to
Bama was awarded a title by a bunch of idiots that realized just stupid they made themselves look so changed the way they awarded the title to keep themselves from looking so stupid. Bama and Arkansas were both undefeated at the end of the season so Bama didn't win anything, but after the bowl games there was only one undefeated team left so Arkansas didn't get a fake title awarded like Bama did, the Razorbacks actually won it.
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:12 pm to
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Congrats to LSU, they get the #1 rank


Legit Title U
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22551 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:12 pm to
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1938 11-0 season and beat OU in the bowl

1950 11-1 lost a week 2 game only top 5 to win their bowl

1998 13-0 BCS title

The only titles the Vols Claim.


National Championships - University of Tennessee Athletics

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Football 6 1938, 1940, 1950, 1951, 1967, 1998

Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:14 pm to
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LSU - 4 claims, 0 are bogus,


False, Iowa was the legitimate National Champion in 1958. Auburn has a claim to it too.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:14 pm to
We didnt pick the 1942 Title, when they calibrated everything in computers, the computer picked us over Ohio State.

Yankee bias....
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:15 pm to
They claim 1940 despite losing their bowl game? Oof.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22551 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:17 pm to
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Bama was awarded a title by a bunch of idiots that realized just stupid they made themselves look so changed the way they awarded the title to keep themselves from looking so stupid. Bama and Arkansas were both undefeated at the end of the season so Bama didn't win anything, but after the bowl games there was only one undefeated team left so Arkansas didn't get a fake title awarded like Bama did, the Razorbacks actually won it.


I'm assuming you don't know what was going on in the country and southern politics during the 1960s to think this.

Teams lost their bowl games after winning the national championship all the time before 1964. It wasn't a problem until Alabama did it..during the middle of the civil rights movement.

And that's why they changed it back after Alabama won the title again in 1965.

Go learn some history instead of making shite up.

Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:17 pm to
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False, Iowa was the legitimate National Champion in 1958. Auburn has a claim to it too.


Lol, no. Iowa went 8-1-1, LSU was 10-0, won the SEC and Sugar Bowl, and was rightfully named national champs.
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 6:19 pm
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:21 pm to
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Well of course a Bama fan would say this so they can continue to claim the only one that Arkansas actually won in 64. When it was all said and done there was only one undefeated team and it wasn't Bama. So claim that bogus title all you want it's bullshite, you know it, I know it, and so does everyone else.


Alabama was undefeated during the regular season. Like the OP said, the AP and Coaches picked before the bowl games.
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 6:23 pm
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:22 pm to
LSU played nobody, Iowa played a gauntlet in the Big Ten

Auburn was also the defending National Champion and went undefeated, therefore they never relinquished their belt. Repeat National Champions
Posted by Arzrbkfan
Member since Jul 2022
242 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:22 pm to
You know the only games aggie ever lost were the ones they didn't care about. As many titles as Bama has actually won you would think a real Bama fan would have to much pride to try and claim one they know they didn't win.
Posted by aspiclark
Member since Jul 2014
3144 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:23 pm to
are there any schools that don’t claim an ap or coaches poll title? just checking.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
6760 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:23 pm to
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1936-1997 - Poll Era


This is the only flaw in your methodology. The poll era ended in 1992 when the Bowl Coalition guaranteed a 1 vs 2 matchup. In other words, Michigan’s claim to ‘97 is total BS. Beyond that, everything else here is consistent and pretty indisputable.
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18278 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:23 pm to
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are there any schools that don’t claim an ap or coaches poll title? just checking.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22551 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:24 pm to
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False, Iowa was the legitimate National Champion in 1958. Auburn has a claim to it too.


I think you are confused.

Auburn claims 1957. Auburn won the AP, Ohio St won the coaches. I counted it as legit.

LSU claims 1958. LSU won both the AP and the Coaches, it wasn't a split title. There are 0 other legitimate claims in 1958.

This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 6:25 pm
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