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Which SEC team claims the least % of bogus titles in football?
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:34 pm
I decided to go ahead and do the math for all SEC teams, and see who claims the least % of bogus titles to real titles.
"Real Title" criteria is as follows.
Titles before 1936 things are pretty much wide open. Undefeated seasons, math formulas(that were developed before 1950), rose bowl wins, whatever. It's pretty difficult to have a bogus claim in this era(spoiler: Still happens).
1936-1997 - Poll Era. Only AP and Coaches Polls are valid in this era. Other claims will be marked as bogus.
1998-present - BCS/Playoff Era. Self explanatory. Only UCF and USCw are lame enough to claim fake titles in this era.
I'm only using titles that the school themselves claim. I'm assuming the wiki pages are correct, if I get one wrong let me know and I'll fix the data.
Vandy, Miss St, Mizzou and South Carolina have 0 claims, but it should be noted they all have atleast 1 claim, sometimes 2 or 3 if they were to make the type of claims others are making here. So shout out to these schools for keeping it honest.
Ranked by least amount of bogus claims to most. % and # of bad claims in case of a tie.
1. LSU - 4 claims, 0 are bogus, 0% bogus claims.
2. Florida: 3 claims, 0 are bogus, 0% bogus claims.
3. Auburn - 2 claims, 0 are bogus. 0% bogus claims depsite the push by some ignorant Auburn fans to change it.
4. Alabama - 18 claims, 1941 is bogus. 6% bogus claims.
5. Georgia: 3 claims, 1942 is bogus. 33% bogus claims.
6. Texas A&M: 4 claims, 1927 and Jimbos 20XX are bogus, 50% bogus claim
7. Tennessee: 6 claims, 1938, 1940, 1950, 1967 are bogus. 66% bogus claims.
8. Kentucky: 1 claims, 1950 is bogus, 100% bogus claims.
8t. Arkansas: 1 claim, 1964 is bogus. 100% bogus claims.
10. Ole Miss: 3 claims, 1959, 1960 and 1962 are bogus, 100% bogus claims.
Congrats to LSU, they get the #1 rank due to having 4 claims over 3 claims to Florida with both no bad claims.
And some of you schools down at the bottom are funny. I'll only say that I don't blame Arkansas fans that much for 1964, but sorry, I'm not trying to fix history.
"Real Title" criteria is as follows.
Titles before 1936 things are pretty much wide open. Undefeated seasons, math formulas(that were developed before 1950), rose bowl wins, whatever. It's pretty difficult to have a bogus claim in this era(spoiler: Still happens).
1936-1997 - Poll Era. Only AP and Coaches Polls are valid in this era. Other claims will be marked as bogus.
1998-present - BCS/Playoff Era. Self explanatory. Only UCF and USCw are lame enough to claim fake titles in this era.
I'm only using titles that the school themselves claim. I'm assuming the wiki pages are correct, if I get one wrong let me know and I'll fix the data.
Vandy, Miss St, Mizzou and South Carolina have 0 claims, but it should be noted they all have atleast 1 claim, sometimes 2 or 3 if they were to make the type of claims others are making here. So shout out to these schools for keeping it honest.
Ranked by least amount of bogus claims to most. % and # of bad claims in case of a tie.
1. LSU - 4 claims, 0 are bogus, 0% bogus claims.
2. Florida: 3 claims, 0 are bogus, 0% bogus claims.
3. Auburn - 2 claims, 0 are bogus. 0% bogus claims depsite the push by some ignorant Auburn fans to change it.
4. Alabama - 18 claims, 1941 is bogus. 6% bogus claims.
5. Georgia: 3 claims, 1942 is bogus. 33% bogus claims.
6. Texas A&M: 4 claims, 1927 and Jimbos 20XX are bogus, 50% bogus claim
7. Tennessee: 6 claims, 1938, 1940, 1950, 1967 are bogus. 66% bogus claims.
8. Kentucky: 1 claims, 1950 is bogus, 100% bogus claims.
8t. Arkansas: 1 claim, 1964 is bogus. 100% bogus claims.
10. Ole Miss: 3 claims, 1959, 1960 and 1962 are bogus, 100% bogus claims.
Congrats to LSU, they get the #1 rank due to having 4 claims over 3 claims to Florida with both no bad claims.
And some of you schools down at the bottom are funny. I'll only say that I don't blame Arkansas fans that much for 1964, but sorry, I'm not trying to fix history.
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 1:18 am
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:35 pm to 3down10
Tennessee has one. Don’t believe the hype. LSU could very easily claim 1908 and have 5.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:37 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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LSU could very easily claim 1908 and have 5.
They should.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:37 pm to 3down10
Ask anyone if they ever recall watching Texas A&M winning a title
If you cant find a single witness... I rest my case
If you cant find a single witness... I rest my case
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:37 pm to 3down10
So what you are saying is anything in the 40's is bogus. I guess because of the war and whatnot.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:38 pm to 3down10
Response thread 
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:41 pm to WilliamTaylor21
A bama fan trying to tell other schools which claimed titles are bogus is itself bogus.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:42 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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Tennessee has one. Don’t believe the hype. LSU could very easily claim 1908 and have 5.
They have 2. They lost that bowl game, but people don't seem to understand those games are played after the teams have been awarded the national championships.
Before that game is even played the teams have already celebrated their national titles. The bowl games simply didn't count, they were exhibitions.
LSU could claim 1908.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:42 pm to 3down10
Hell of a post brother
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:44 pm to SpotCheckBilly
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A bama fan trying to tell other schools which claimed titles are bogus is itself bogus.
^Must be one of the ignorant Auburn fans trying to claim bogus titles.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:48 pm to 3down10
quote:Well of course a Bama fan would say this so they can continue to claim the only one that Arkansas actually won in 64. When it was all said and done there was only one undefeated team and it wasn't Bama. So claim that bogus title all you want it's bullshite, you know it, I know it, and so does everyone else.
1936-1997 - Poll Era. Only AP and Coaches Polls are valid in this era. Other claims will be marked as bogus.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:48 pm to 3down10
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:48 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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Response thread
I was curious, cry more.
The best response to the thread you are talking about has been happening about every other year. And that's when you are forced to update the total.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:49 pm to 3down10
They’re all bogus. The NCAA, college football’s only long-standing governing body never awarded them. And now they’re dead. It’s been 100+ years of pageants and invitationals. The AP poll has never been the Authority, neither has the coaches poll. It’s A POLL.
There’s no formula, no tournament, no pennant.
There’s no formula, no tournament, no pennant.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:49 pm to 3down10
Quality thread, don’t see anything on here that anyone would dispute.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:49 pm to 3down10
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I'll only say that I don't blame Arkansas fans that much for 1964, but sorry, I'm not trying to fix history.
Yep, we got screwed 2 years in a row, championship awarded before a bowl one year then a rule change because of it then a bowl loss the next year.
Thus is the life of a Razorback fan.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:51 pm to Arzrbkfan
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Well of course a Bama fan would say this so they can continue to claim the only one that Arkansas actually won in 64. When it was all said and done there was only one undefeated team and it wasn't Bama. So claim that bogus title all you want it's bullshite, you know it, I know it, and so does everyone else.
The national championships were decided before it was all said and done with. You seem to think the teams played the bowl games, then were awarded the national championship after. That's not how it worked. The teams were awarded, they celebrated and everything weeks before the bowl games.
Who knows how the teams would have taken those bowl games if they hadn't already been awarded the championships.
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:52 pm to 3down10
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5. Georgia: 3 claims, 1942 is bogus. 33% bogus claims.
1942 is LEGIT for UGA....the Dawgs were the CONSENSUS national champions.
UGA finished 11-1 in 1942 and were Rose Bowl Champions. Ohio State finished 9-1 (they didn't go to a bowl game that season.
Both teams played 3 ranked opponents: UGA defeated all 3 ranked opponents (#3 Alabama, #2 Georgia Tech, and #13 UCLA); Ohio State defeated 2 ranked opponents (#13 Illinois, #4 Michigan) and lost to one ranked opponent (#6 Wisconsin).
Back in those days, the AP poll did not hold the importance and consideration over other NCAA-sanctioned polls like it began to take on in the 1960's and 1970's and up to the present.
Your standards by which you make these distinctions are faulty and and not accurate.
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:53 pm to 3down10
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Alabama - 18 claims, 1941 is bogus. 6% bogus claims.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:54 pm to 3down10
Ban 3down10 until he’s drug tested.
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