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re: Which SEC cities have the most in common and would you group together?

Posted on 7/31/13 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by Bama Bird
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 2:59 pm to
I think you grouped them more in terms of geographical location than the actual cities themselves. This is how I would group them

Small Towns
-Places where the College dominates the city
Auburn
Oxford
Starkville


Small Cities
-Places with a significant non-student population; small metro areas
Athens
College Station
Columbia, MO
Fayetteville
Gainesville
Tuscaloosa

Mid-sized cities
Columbia, SC
Knoxville
Lexington

Larger cities
Baton Rouge
Nashville
Posted by TRUERockyTop
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 3:00 pm to
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Tuscaloosa has a metro population of 270,000. That's like three times the size of Oxford and Starkville added together. How are they anything alike in that regard


All 3 are small to medium sized citys with a pretty heavy college town feel to it. Tuscaloosa is a lot bigger then the Miss. schools but even then its still in the bottom half of SEC cities by city proper and metro area populations.
Posted by aggressor
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 3:01 pm to
A&M is hard to group with some of the other SEC cities but honestly is probably closest to a mix of Gainesville and Auburn.

CS is a true college town that has about 225k in the metro and is an hour from Houston and 2 to 3 hours from the other 3 major Texas metros. The area is generally flat and doesn't get quite the rain (and thus larger trees and greenery) that most of the other SEC towns do but it is definitely in the greener part of Texas. For instance in Gainesville you can't see very far into the campus at any point because there is a bunch of 100 foot trees everywhere, in CS if you get some elevation you can see everything as the trees are rarely above 40 feet. It has rural roots but really isn't anymore even though it has no shortage of farms and ranches on the outskirts of town. Very sprawled out campus with lots of research buildings everywhere.

It is decidedly Texan though and no other SEC school has that feel to it, the food is completely different for instance than the rest of the SEC with Tex Mex and Beef BBQ ruling the roost. A&M and CS have just changed so much over time in identity it is hard to compare it to many other towns. No one else has our amazing Soviet style architecture on half our buildings though!
Posted by Mullen3:16
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 3:03 pm to
I would equate Tuscaloosa to being a "Little Detroit"
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 3:04 pm to
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Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 3:06 pm to
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All 3 are small to medium sized citys with a pretty heavy college town feel to it. Tuscaloosa is a lot bigger then the Miss. schools but even then its still in the bottom half of SEC cities by city proper and metro area populations.

Athens-Clarke Co(which is a Co/city)has a population of 115,000. The Athens-Clarke Co. metro area population is 190,000 including parts of 4 other Co.s.. Athens is a true College town, the town's economy is dependant on UGA, no UGA...no Athens. You can't say that about Columbia SC, Nashville or Baton Rouge...
This post was edited on 7/31/13 at 3:09 pm
Posted by TRUERockyTop
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 3:06 pm to
It wasnt purely based off of size of city-town or geographical location. See the Fayettville-Knoxville comparison. Although I think a fair amount of the cities in the same area have a lot of tight cultural ties with each other with the exception of a few

This post was edited on 7/31/13 at 3:08 pm
Posted by Bama Bird
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 3:07 pm to
Okay, but Fayetteville and Knoxville have very, very little in common
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

All 3 are small to medium sized citys with a pretty heavy college town feel to it. Tuscaloosa is a lot bigger then the Miss. schools but even then its still in the bottom half of SEC cities by city proper and metro area populations.



Oxford is less than 20,000. Starkville is less than 24,000. Tuscaloosa alone is right at 100,000 and that's not counting Northport and other cities in the Tuscaloosa Metropolitan Area.

Tuscaloosa is also larger Auburn, Oxford, Starkville, Fayetteville (though has a smaller metro area than NWA), and is roughly the same size as Gainesville, Columbia (MO), Athens, and College Station.
Posted by TRUERockyTop
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 3:10 pm to
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Okay, but Fayetteville and Knoxville have very, very little in common


You could make the exact opposite case for the cities as well
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 3:11 pm to
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It wasnt purely based off of size of city-town or geographical location. See the Fayettville-Knoxville comparison. Although I think a fair amount of the cities in the same area have a lot of tight cultural ties with each other with the exception of a few



Then from a cultural, historical, and demographic makeup, Tuscaloosa is even less similar to Oxford and Starkville.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 3:11 pm to
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I would equate Tuscaloosa to being a "Little Detroit"



West Tuscaloosa certainly would be.
Posted by Bama Bird
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 3:20 pm to
Tuscaloosa is most similar to Athens IMO. We don't have as much as they do, but it's the same old, southern town feeling there. We are on our way, though.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 3:21 pm to
Tuscaloosa is most similar to College Station. They even look the same when driving into them. Never been to Gainsville so I don't know of it's similar to those two, but CS and T-town are not like the Mississippi towns because they're not tiny, they're not like Knox or Fayettenam because they're both pretty flat, they're not like Nashville because they're not that big, and not like Athens or Columbia because they don't have that woodsy semi-hippie college town vibe.
Posted by BAMAisDIESEL09
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 3:23 pm to
That's funny I'd equate Baton Rouge to "little Mogadishu"
Posted by DisplacedKentuckian
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 3:23 pm to
Lexington's urban population is larger than Baton Rouges... however the metro is smaller because Lex is hemmed in by the horse farms and has pretty much reached its current limits. In the long run the city will have to skip the farms and expand in the surrounding counties like Woodford, Jessamine, Madison... etc.
Posted by tween the hedges
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 3:24 pm to
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-Columbia, SC
-Athens, GA
You're grouping the biggest shithole city in the SEC with the best college town.

Posted by NawlinsTigah270
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 3:26 pm to
BR has more crime than the other 13 combined
Posted by Bama Bird
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 3:26 pm to
Tuscaloosa is a really old city, though. We have an old downtown area, which CS doesn't. The hipsters are starting to come here
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 3:28 pm to
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Then from a cultural, historical, and demographic makeup, Tuscaloosa is even less similar to Oxford and Starkville.


Besides populus numbers how could the 3 not be any more alike? Thats a genuine question.

All 3 cities have been linked together by transport for hundreds of years due to proximity, all 3 cities have above average minority populations. All cities have ties to the deep south and slavery. Bare minimum 2 of the 3 cities would have what you would consider healthy employment rates and options as well as being ranked with in top 50 places to live under XXX population. From the outside looking in all of the areas seem very rural. At the same time I didnt grow up there so I wouldnt be able to accurately say what really differentiates the areas other then population.
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