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re: Which former Saban assistant will be the first to beat him?
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:26 pm to Mithridates6
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:26 pm to Mithridates6
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Chaney is a bad OC they need to upgrade there immediately
Eh, I think Butch's failure to recruit any depth at non-skill positions was the biggest issue for them when Pruitt took over, and that's something that takes time to fix. That and signing a decent QB. They've had really good players at certain positions but Butch totally neglected certain units. I feel like he went an entire recruiting cycle without signing a single OL. I'm not saying Chaney is good, but he's been there one year at a program in the middle of a rebuild. Hard to say if he's going to hold them back or not at this point.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 10:28 pm
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:30 pm to nicholastiger
Big Germ is ready shotgun 6 Bud heavies after VOLS go in on bama this season.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:30 pm to lsufball19
Agree - I think Cheney is fine, however, his scheme is not going to patch over problems at skill positions like some schemes might.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:31 pm to SummerOfGeorge
To be fair, VOLS were starting two true freshmen at the tackle spots last annum (albeit both 5*s). If Cade Mays is eligible and Morris/Wright can make a jump, that OL is quite nasty.
Guarantano is such a coin flip at QB and it really limits the ceiling of the offense. It really sucks that spring practice was wiped out because Bailey is probably the biggest arm talent we’ve had since Bray imo.
Guarantano is such a coin flip at QB and it really limits the ceiling of the offense. It really sucks that spring practice was wiped out because Bailey is probably the biggest arm talent we’ve had since Bray imo.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:31 pm to lsufball19
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I think it's how the team responded and played thereafter when a lot of teams would have quit after those two losses to start the season.
1) Nowhere to go but up
2) Who’d they beat? None of the teams on the rest of their schedule had anything to play for.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:33 pm to David Ricky
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Guarantano is such a coin flip at QB and it really limits the ceiling of the offense. It really sucks that spring practice was wiped out because Bailey is probably the biggest arm talent we’ve had since Bray imo.
I think as big a problem is that you lose those 2 receivers. Those guys were solid college receivers and Jennings was the ultimate security blanket. Palmer is a solid player and I'm sure some of your kids will be good players eventually, but that WR group is not going to be JG (or Bailey's) friend in 2020.
If you had Calloway and Jennings back to go with a improving OL and some decent backs I could see some optimism. Gonna be tough to stay multiple unless some guys step up outside.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:33 pm to Cobb Dawg
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Who’d they beat? None of the teams on the rest of their schedule had anything to play for.
That's pretty disingenuous. To start a football season 0-2 and finish 8-5 with all your losses being to top 10 teams isn't anything to be ashamed of given the situation in Knoxville. How are you going to say no one has anything to play for? You think any team that isn't vying for a playoff spot just coasts through the season without regard for winning and losing? Tennessee went from 0-8 in the SEC in 2017, to 2-6 in 2018, to 5-3 last year. There are no guarantees, but what Pruitt is doing seems pretty positive to me.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:34 pm to lsufball19
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Eh, I think Butch's failure to recruit any depth at non-skill positions was the biggest issue for them when Pruitt took over, and that's something that takes time to fix. That and signing a decent QB. They've had really good players at certain positions but Butch totally neglected certain units. I feel like he went an entire recruiting cycle without signing a single OL. I'm not saying Chaney is good, but he's been there one year at a program in the middle of a rebuild. Hard to say if he's going to hold them back or not at this point.
This is correct. VOLS were complete slop on both sides of the LOS when Pruitt took over. I have seen what Chaney can do when you give him adequate pieces on offense and a QB with an arm and half a brain.
I have zero concerns about the defense going forward given the job Pruitt has done the past two seasons with a ton of Lyle holdovers and true freshmen all over the field. Tennessee should be fielding elite defenses from this point forward imo
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:35 pm to David Ricky
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I have zero concerns about the defense going forward given the job Pruitt has done the past two seasons with a ton of Lyle holdovers and true freshmen all over the field. Tennessee should be fielding elite defenses from this point forward imo
Yea, Tennessee will play great defense from here on out. Pruitt is an elite defensive coach and he's now got a roster full of solid guys with elite guys sprinkled in. As lsu19 noted earlier, you saw it last year at times. Cheney is a good coach and a very good schemer. I think his struggles are (a) he requires good players to run his stuff and (b) he's not great at counter-adjustments.
Struggle B is the definition of a 1st world problem. If that is your OC's "struggle", then you are probably in a pretty good place.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:45 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Losing Callaway and Jennings will be massive. I like Palmer a lot and feel think he should settle in as the first option nicely. Gibbs is probably the wildcard here. He looked really good all season in practice switching to receiver and would’ve been right there with Palmer with the 1’s if eligible per reports. Hopefully one of the freshmen Wideman, Hyatt, or Calloway can step up some.
Fingers crossed Gray/Chandler/Jordan is a good enough RB stable, behind what should be one of the best lines in the SEC, to help take some of the pressure off of Guarantano and lean on what should be a top ~15 defense
Fingers crossed Gray/Chandler/Jordan is a good enough RB stable, behind what should be one of the best lines in the SEC, to help take some of the pressure off of Guarantano and lean on what should be a top ~15 defense
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:47 pm to David Ricky
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Losing Callaway and Jennings will be massive. I like Palmer a lot and feel think he should settle in nicely. Gibbs is probably the wildcard here. He looked really good all season in practice switching to receiver and would’ve been right there with Palmer with the 1’s if eligible. Hopefully one of the freshmen Wideman, Hyatt, or Calloway can step up some.
Hopefully Gray/Chandler/Jordan is a good enough RB stable, behind what should be one of the best lines in the SEC, to help take some of the pressure off of Guarantano and lean on what should be a top ~15 defense
They should be in most games all year, and add in a really good kicker and you gotta just hope that JG can somehow manage the game and not make back-breaking mistakes. It could kind of be a throwback team, but the personnel certainly lends itself to a defense and field position squad that wears teams down in the 2nd half of games.
I'm certainly hoping that we get back to some of that.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:25 pm to Buzz Killington
Same way they look past GA.Southern and LA. Monroe, U.A.B. Citadel etc.....
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I'm perplexed by the love he's getting. I'm not saying he's a terrible coach. However, I'm unsure why everyone is looking past his losses to GA ST and BYU.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:44 pm to SummerOfGeorge
2021 should really be "the year" for them when Pruitt's guys are all upperclassmen. They'll probably still be a recruiting cycle or two away from challenging UGA though
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:19 am to nicholastiger
Hold on! He might still beat them this year and then retires!
Posted on 5/12/20 at 7:35 am to craigbiggio
The problem with the Pruitt answer is the only teams that beat Bama usually have a great Qb performance in that game.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 7:56 am to SummerOfGeorge
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They'll be hell on wheels on defense, probably starting next season and certainly in 2021.
I still question their offense. It was bad last year, and that was with 2 very solid senior SEC wide receivers
Unreliable QB play killed the O. Chaney had to limit everything to fit Gitmo because he was the only viable option. But the QB room adds 3 more options in transfer King and 2 freshmen QBs and are pursuing another transfer in Daniels. Fix QB play and you fix the Vols O.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 8:03 am to Smokeyone
Chaney has help from former Norte Dame OC Chip Long.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 8:05 am to lastfan
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Butt Kiffin is a connoisseur of cracks...
Fify
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:36 am to nicholastiger
Pruitt
Posted on 5/12/20 at 2:24 pm to nicholastiger
If anyone could do it, it will be Kiffin or Pruitt. Kiffin almost beat us at Tennessee.
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