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Where the coaches of the College Football Playoff's Top 10 teams came from

Posted on 11/22/19 at 5:05 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 5:05 pm
Kind of interesting

1. LSU - Ed Orgeron (D-Line coach/interim head coach, LSU)

2. Ohio State - Ryan Day (Offensive Coordinator/interim head coach, Ohio State)

3. Clemson - Dabo Swinney (WR Coach/interim head coach, Clemson)

4. Georgia - Kirby Smart (Defensive Coordinator, Alabama)

5. Alabama - Nick Saban (Head Coach, Miami Dolphins)

6. Oregon - Mario Cristobal (Co-Offensive Coordinator, Oregon)

7. Utah - Kyle Whittingham (Defensive Coordinator, Utah)

8. Penn State - James Franklin (Head Coach, Vanderbilt)

9. Oklahoma - Lincoln Riley (Offensive Coordinator, Oklahoma)

10. Minnesota - PJ Fleck (Head Coach, Western Michigan)


- 7 of the 10 coaches were hired from coordinator positons/interim tags
- 3 of the coaches were hired after doing interim stints for various reasons (2 after coach fired, 1 after coach suspended)
- 1 came from the NFL, 1 came from Vanderbilt, 1 came from Western Michigan
- 6 of the coaches were on the staff of the previous coach


Of that group, I think everyone would agree that there was only 1 "can't miss" coach when he was hired (Saban).
This post was edited on 11/22/19 at 5:07 pm
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 5:06 pm to
Wow I didn’t realize Dabo had never been a coordinator before.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 5:07 pm to
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Wow I didn’t realize Dabo had never been a coordinator before.




Just about the only people who even knew who Dabo Swinney was were Alabama fans and Clemson fans.

He was just a regular ole position coach who nobody else in America knew.
Posted by Krampus
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 5:08 pm to
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Wow I didn’t realize Dabo had never been a coordinator before.


Yep. Clemson lucked into absolutel gold with Dabo as a position coach, and their admin was keen enough to recognize it and hand him the keys to their program before anyone else realized it.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 5:10 pm to
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Yep. Clemson lucked into absolutel gold with Dabo as a position coach, and their admin was keen enough to recognize it and hand him the keys to their program before anyone else realized it.


They also stuck with him after 3 pretty unremarkable seasons. Maybe they saw something, maybe they got lucky, maybe a bit of both.

2008 - 4-3 (3-2)
2009 - 9-5 (6-2), #24
2010 - 6-7 (4-4)
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 5:12 pm to
Surprising that the LSU defense is so bad, given Orgeron's background. The others all make sense
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 5:12 pm to
Clemson didn’t have much choice. No one was clamoring to coach there and no one have a frick when Dabo was hired.

Everyone was wrong
Posted by Krampus
Member since Nov 2018
5207 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 5:15 pm to
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Clemson didn’t have much choice. No one was clamoring to coach there and no one have a frick when Dabo was hired.

Everyone was wrong


Clemson was still a decent program from a major conference. They had options to hire a HC from a smaller school, or a coordinator looking to step up to HC if they wanted to.

They chose to promote their WR coach to Head Coach instead. That doesn't happen unless somebody sees something in the candidate.
Posted by Rougarou4lsu
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2003
3079 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 5:32 pm to
--Surprising the LSU defense is so bad given Orgerons background. The others all make cents.=-

Surprising the the Texas A&M team is so bad given
Jimbo$ contract. The others all make cents.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 5:52 pm to
Fleck really came out of nowhere didn't he?
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 5:52 pm to
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Yep. Clemson lucked into absolutel gold with Dabo as a position coach, and their admin was keen enough to recognize it and hand him the keys to their program before anyone else realized it. They also stuck with him after 3 pretty unremarkable seasons. Maybe they saw something, maybe they got lucky, maybe a bit of both. 2008 - 4-3 (3-2) 2009 - 9-5 (6-2), #24 2010 - 6-7 (4-4)


You forgot to mention the conference is not that good! SEC is a lot tougher conference. Huge difference and Clemson was able to pick up 4* and 5* recruits when it started to win over others in their conference and over South Carolina.
Posted by jvilardo
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 8:11 pm to
Nice work.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 8:14 pm to
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Fleck really came out of nowhere didn't he?


He was definitely the hot mid-major coach, but those blow up more often than they hit.

And, to be fair, we'll see if this is a one year thing or not in the coming years. This has been a pretty lucky year for them - terrible schedule and a bunch of close wins over bad teams.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 7:45 am to
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Clemson was still a decent program from a major conference. They had options to hire a HC from a smaller school, or a coordinator looking to step up to HC if they wanted to.


I think this is most likely not true given Clemson could pay more than most universities in the country.

How would a Texas AM fan know anyway.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 7:47 am to
I think this is not true given Clemson could pay more than most universities in the country.

how would you know anyway.
Posted by biclops
Member since Oct 2011
6149 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:23 am to
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I think this is most likely not true given Clemson could pay more than most universities in the country.

How would a Texas AM fan know anyway.


Try re-reading the post you're responding to.

quote:

Tillman


Oh, carry on then.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4299 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:40 am to
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They chose to promote their WR coach to Head Coach instead. That doesn't happen unless somebody sees something in the candidate.


I think Terry Don Phillips, the AD who promoted Dabo to interim and then permanent HC, was very impressed with his charisma and ability to relate to players. He deserves an awful lot of credit for hiring Dabo and then sticking with him through some early struggles, especially against USCe. He was right about Dabo, even more so than he knew in 2008.
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8518 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:48 am to
Bebes saw something.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:56 am to
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ou forgot to mention the conference is not that good! SEC is a lot tougher conference. Huge difference and Clemson was able to pick up 4* and 5* recruits when it started to win over others in their conference and over South Carolina.


You forgot to mention all of Clemson's wins over SEC teams and 'bluebloods' like Olahoma and Ohio State.

Mizzou didn't struggle this year b/c it loss to teams liKe Alabama. It lost to Vandy, Wyoming, Kentucky, Tenn, etc. t

playing in the SEC is a fake crutch

Clemson is not just recruiting against ACC schools. All the SEC schools and good programs outside the south are recruiting Georgia and Florida hard too.
This post was edited on 11/24/19 at 10:00 am
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