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re: What's your honest opinion on LSU?

Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:14 am to
Posted by Meatball
Member since Sep 2009
5122 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:14 am to
Let's be honest, Alabama is the gold standard in not only the SEC but college football in general. Bama is what every college football program should strive to be. Is it attainable? Not for all football programs. Probably just a hand full.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
10249 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:18 am to
9-3/8-4 every year for the foreseeable future. I allow for a couple 10-2 seasons here and there with losses to Alabama and someone else
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
23536 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:18 am to
Great state.
Passionate fan base.
Amazing in state talent.
Always a solid team that will fight.
Not so sure about their AD --- but that is a glass house to throw stones from if ever there was one.
Only hate them the day we play them.

Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12682 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:21 am to
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quote:

but LSU is one good head coach away from going on a similar streak Bama has the last 8 years.


Riiiiiight. Because the type of run Alabama has been on since '09 just happens all the time.


He's right.

LSU has an insane amount of in-state talent, and they do a relatively good job of keeping a lot of it home.

Outside of the QB position, the amount of players they've put in the NFL who are playing at a higher level than they did at LSU is astounding.

Miles was a good but not great coach who squandered several elite rosters and he still almost won 2 NCs. A better coach would have them on a Bama-like streak if it weren't for Nick Saban.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
109906 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:34 am to
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If Orgeron is totally incompetent and the team is totally dysfunctional they could go like 4-8. Even with all that talent. It is possible is all I'm saying
If he was totally incompetent, as in Ole Miss Orgeron, the team would have completely crumbled this year. Think John L Smith.


I wasnt happy with the hire, but once we lost out on Herman and Fisher, I like the angle we went with. Sure, we could have done what every other program does and hire a McElwain or Jones, another 8-4 retread, or you can try somethin new.

We are completely changing it up. Pay the head coach little with basically no buyout, and loading up on the top coordinators. If you cant beat Bama by finding another Saban, try something different.


It may be a complete flop, but I am at least happy we arent just giving up

Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34914 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:21 am to
quote:

Then stop talking in absolutes



The only absolute I said was Coach O was absolutely never a defensive coordinator. Which is true.

The rest is my opinion based of his history.

quote:

Isn't your coach a huge drunk?



Yeah, but in some places that is normal. And to be fair Sumlin was not only a coordinator twice, but he has been an non-interim head coach twice.
Posted by thanksjhester
Sonic
Member since Jun 2009
5745 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:07 pm to
O had your wife?
Posted by agswin
The Republic of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
4360 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:10 pm to
Comic relief?
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4387 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:11 pm to
Are you sure you are bama ?I actually agree with you !
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
59245 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:13 pm to
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one of those were close to Saban at Bama. He's closing in on 5 national titles in 10 years. Get fricking real


CFB is subjective. We have no idea how Carroll's teams would've done if given the opportunity that Bama has gotten. From 02-08, USC could play with anyone.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:16 pm to
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what gets (LSU) them into trouble is looking at Alabama success and trying to compare or match it, instead of letting the chips fall into place and being the best version of LSU you can be.

Can you please explain how implementation of these two seemingly different philosophies would manifest?

How does an athletic department at a P5 school, "[let] the chips fall where they may"? What would that even look like?
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being the best version of LSU you can be

Wouldn't that be best achieved by striving for national championships, and not just watching 'chips' fall?

I think your heart is in the right place in this thread, you just can't seem to unbamafy yourself long enough to actually make an intelligent point.
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:24 pm to
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Not so sure about their AD --- but that is a glass house to throw stones from if ever there was one



Agreed, don't see Aleva being here much longer. He is about to have to make a decision on Johnny Jones here shortly and that might do him in. Along with how he has handle the football coaching search the last few years. This has nothing to do with the Coach O hire, it's how he went about it again!

I have given into the fact that Alabama is far and above anyone not only in the SEC but in college football. LSU will be there in the thick of things year in and year out. I do agree with the OP, I don't see how anyone in their right mind other than Alabama could even be grinning about what's going on at LSU. Lord knows everyone needs to be looking in the mirror coming off of this dumpster fire year in the SEC. Hell it turned out better at LSU then just about any other school, lets face the facts.

Auburn, Florida pulled a rabbit out their arse to beat LSU and well we all know that no team this year has taking their best shot at Alabama like LSU did.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13318 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:30 pm to
Honestly, LSU had a decade of being good and relevant and I think that time is over. No troll at all here but the anomaly for LSU was 2000-2011. Every other decade sucked for LSU, sprinkled in with a good season or 2 but this is the norm.

Sounds harsh but, it is what it is.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 2:31 pm
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34914 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:34 pm to
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Hell it turned out better at LSU then just about any other school, lets face the facts


Oh really?

Please tell us who else was trying to hire Coach O as a head coach so we can "face the facts."
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18876 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:38 pm to
My honest opinion is that LSU will be back in 2017.

Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34914 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:38 pm to
Back from what?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
126951 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

What's your honest opinion on LSU?
The best of the rest.

Which means first loser.

Posted by glaucon
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2008
5292 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:51 pm to
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This is the most unqualified hire in big 6 history. No big 6 program has ever elevated a position coach to hc. We just hired a coach that HAS NEVER RAN A SUCCESSFUL OFFENSE, DEFENSE OR PROGRAM. Ed Orgeron wouldnt get interviewed for hc at vandy or kentucky.


Clemson did. It turned out okay.
Posted by bamagreycoat
Member since Oct 2012
5749 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:23 pm to
Coach O will recruit better that Miles did that is a fact. If LSU does decide to part ways with Coach O in a few years, he will leave Red Stick stocked with elite talent.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34914 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:31 pm to
Name another example.
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