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what was the situation at Auburn vs Ole Miss that many say Ole Miss won the game?
Posted on 11/17/20 at 7:17 am
Posted on 11/17/20 at 7:17 am
I know about the Arkansas game and the Hogs absolutely did win that game on the field and the SEC office even basically admitted it.
What happened in the Ole Miss game and was it the end of the game, or what?
What happened in the Ole Miss game and was it the end of the game, or what?
Posted on 11/17/20 at 7:19 am to BLG
Ball hit Auburn player finger and was recovered in end zone by IM. Okay not reviewed and called touchback It was not as egregious as Arkansas game but should have been reviewed.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 7:22 am to BLG
Kickoff that should be called a turnover and a 4th quarter possible Auburn fumble that wasn’t reviewed.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 7:27 am to HottyToddy7
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Kickoff that should be called a turnover
I did see video of the Auburn player fielding a kick off and the ball glanced off his leg. Had Ole Miss just scored or was that the 2nd half kickoff?
So Ole Miss recovered in the end zone and should have been a td but was called a touchback. Correct? If the call had been correct and Ole Miss recovered for a td, what would the score have been and how much time was left?
This post was edited on 11/17/20 at 7:29 am
Posted on 11/17/20 at 7:31 am to BLG
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So Ole Miss recovered in the end zone and should have been a td but was called a touchback. Correct? If the call had been correct and Ole Miss recovered for a td, what would the score have been and how much time was left?
Ole Miss was up 28-27 when it happened; presuming they make the XP, it's 35-27
If the rest of the game plays out as is, Auburn scores and makes their 2pt conversion.
Then the game goes into OT.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 7:32 am to BLG
It was in the 4th with 5 min to go. If reviewed and called correctly Ole Miss would have gone up by 8 or 9 and probably won the game. At a minimum, Auburn’s only chance to win would have been to tie the game and get it to OT.
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This post was edited on 11/17/20 at 7:37 am
Posted on 11/17/20 at 7:33 am to JPLSU1981
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It was in the 4th. If reviewed and called correctly Ole Miss would have won the game.
how much time was left in the 4th quarter?
ok. I see the video edited in. Thanks
wow. So not only no review but the official immediately decided the ball didn't touch the Auburn guy. Are Auburn boosters paying officials or what? With over 5 minutes left in the game Auburn may still have won but a review would have shown that to be a Ole Miss td. The Arkansas game was cut and dried. Arkansas won that game.
Officials that blow calls like that shouldn't be able to work the next game, or maybe several games.
This post was edited on 11/17/20 at 7:40 am
Posted on 11/17/20 at 7:40 am to BLG
Ole Miss had taken the lead late in the 4th quarter and on the kickoff Auburn touched the ball slightly and Ole Miss recovered in the endzone, should have been a TD which would have put the game completely away for Ole Miss.
Instead Auburn scored the go ahead TD on their possession.
Instead Auburn scored the go ahead TD on their possession.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 7:53 am to BLG
We wanted to win the game so we send an envelope full of cash to the ref that we felt like like had the best opportunity to fix the game. Turns out we got it to the right guy. Good thing we didn't pick the guy called the phantom hold on our kickoff return for a touchdown.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 8:26 am to BLG
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Are Auburn boosters paying officials or what?
of course we are. That's why we are undefeated!
Posted on 11/17/20 at 8:27 am to PEEPO
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which would have put the game completely away for Ole Miss.
No
Posted on 11/17/20 at 8:29 am to Leto II
It would have given us a two score lead in a game where neither defense could make a stop.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 8:44 am to BLG
Amazing how both plays didn’t involve the opposing team ever touching the ball and both fans bases try and claim victory. No great effort or superior talent, just blame the refs, lol.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 9:28 am to Irons Puppet
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both fans bases try and claim victory
The only reason you can "try and claim victory" is the complete failure of SEC officiating. It's egregious. You know it's evident and bad when other fan bases are bringing this up and not OM or Arky.
I will always maintain that Auburn can get fricked for the rest of eternity.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 9:32 am to Saskwatch
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I will always maintain that Auburn can get fricked for the rest of eternity.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 9:44 am to Saskwatch
BS, you can find a bad call by the Refs in any close game that could have turned the game. Other fans bases have butthurt over the years beause they can not figure out how AU is in the Big 6.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 9:50 am to Irons Puppet
So the hogs and fightin' Freshwaters are still mad?
Pity that.
Pity that.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 9:54 am to BLG
It should have been reviewed but I've got a hard time believing it would have been overturned. If it helps keep the Gus Bus on Auburn's sideline another year then I am okay with it.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 9:58 am to BLG
Here is summary of the rulebook and interpretation pertaining to this play from Stat Tiger on another board:
and a follow-up post:
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NCAA rule book:Section 7. Responsibility and Impetus
Initial Impetus—ARTICLE 2
Approved Ruling 8-7-2
I. Ball carrier A1, advancing toward Team B’s goal line, fumbles when B1
bats the ball from his hand or tackles him from the rear. In either case, A1
loses possession short of the goal line, and the ball goes into Team B’s end
zone, where Team B recovers. RULING: Touchback. Impetus is charged
to the fumble by Team A (Rule 8-6-1-a).
II. Any kick by Team A strikes the ground and a Team B player bats the ball
across Team B’s goal line, where Team B recovers it while grounded or it
goes out of bounds. RULING: New impetus is given by Team B. Safety,
two points for Team A. Batting the kick is considered to have destroyed
the impetus of the kick and imparted a new impetus. However, merely
touching or deflecting the kick, or being struck by it, does not destroy the
impetus of the kick (Rule 8-5-1-a).
A friend of mine who officiates NCAA football cited to me the above section. He gave me the following explanation and how he would have ruled on the play.
For it to have remained a live ball after crossing the goal line , Shivers had to possess and then fumble the ball or batted the ball. Both would have changed the impetus of the kick. The mere grazing or inadvertent contact with the ball would not automatically change the impetus of the ball but COULD be a judgment call and reviewed unless an official ruled the play a touchback and dead. He further stated that once the official blew the play dead after it crossed the goal line, it could not be reviewed because the play was ruled a touchback. In his opinion, the impetus of the ball never changed even after contact with Shiver's pinky so the moment the ball crossed the goal line, it was an AUTOMATIC touchback. Prior to the rule changes, the receiver had to field the ball in the end zone because a ball beyond 10-yards was considered live. The changes were made for player-safety. He added that the official likely did not see Shivers make contact with the ball, which is why he blew it dead once the ball rolled past the goal line. Had he saw any contact with the ball, he would have allowed the play to carry on until a recovery was made or the ball rolled out of the field of play. A review would be warranted to determine if Shivers did indeed change the impetus of the ball. If they felt the impetus would have taken the ball into the end zone, it would be ruled a touch back because it was no longer a live ball once it crossed the goal line. If they ruled he did change the impetus it would be a live ball and a TD would have been awarded to Ole Miss if they recovered it in the end zone.
and a follow-up post:
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Not going to debate it because I am not a collegiate official. Just reporting what a collegiate official told me. According to him, the rule I cited would apply to the Ole Miss game. Again, he said Shivers never possessed the ball so it was not a fumble. You are correct that "batting" would not apply because Shivers did not bat the ball. If they had reviewed the play and saw that Shivers made contact with the ball, they would have to decide whether or not Shivers contact changed the impetus of the ball. If they ruled the impetus was not changed, the ruling would be a touch back because the play would have been dead, the moment the ball crossed the goal line. If they ruled that Shivers did change the impetus of the ball, it would have remained a live ball and could have been recovered for a TD by Ole Miss. In his opinion, the impetus did not change, thus he would have ruled the play a touch back.
Regardless of the rules, Shivers was clearly in position to recover the ball had the official not blown the whistle.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 10:00 am to Irons Puppet
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Amazing how both plays didn’t involve the opposing team ever touching the ball
It....it bent the auburn returners finger 45 degrees backwards and an ole miss player recovered the ball in the end zone.
Are you stupid or just stupid?
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