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re: What SEC teams are improving enough to take out the mighty ducks

Posted on 10/17/13 at 6:45 am to
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 10/17/13 at 6:45 am to
Based on actual accomplishments, why would anyone in the SEC give credit to Oregon? If all we're doing is looking at this year's team and evaluating how they LOOK, then Oregon and Baylor can face off and call us with the winner.

Then in the ultimate "eye test" championship, the winner of that game can face Louisville.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 6:58 am to
I hope you realize that you're arguing with a 16 yr old kid
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
40977 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 7:31 am to
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I hope you (whiskeyjohn) realize that you're arguing with a 16 yr old kid


If bamafatigue is a 16 year old kid then someone needs to spank his arse and wash his mouth-out with soap.

fricking left coasters do not know how to raise their children. Spare the rod, spoil the child, obviously and especially in this case.
Posted by BamaFatigue
Oregun
Member since Oct 2013
285 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 7:36 am to
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If bamafatigue is a 16 year old kid then someone needs to spank his arse and wash his mouth-out with soap


Eh, I'm not 16 Mr. Rooster who likes to cuss and suggest washing someone's mouth out with soap in the same paragraph.
Posted by man in the stadium
Member since Aug 2006
1426 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 7:58 am to
I've noticed you keep propping up your national offensive and defensive rankings, and harping on Bamas schedule. Bama does play a pussy schedule but anyone who sought out and played Nichols state is more than a pussy...more like a gaping vagina. Hanging 70 or whatever on a glorified HS team then repping your stats tells me Oregon isn't there yet and still doesn't deserve national title holder type respect (or respect for the NW's style of politics).
This post was edited on 10/17/13 at 8:00 am
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
35240 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 7:59 am to
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Kentucky game


Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 8:00 am to
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Eh, I'm not 16


17, my bad. A naive 17 at that
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
25712 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 8:09 am to
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Love how you're so confident of beating a team you've never even played. Control the TOP all you want. Oregon wins big when we lose the TOP war. We force a turnover or two on you and you're finished. Your offenses are crap compared to ours. And our defense is in the top 20, nothing to sneer at.



We run a different style of offense than Oregon but I guarantee you Bama and LSU put up a ton of points. You really think that Oregon is going to run up and down the field on these defenses. You think that auburn defense shut down that great offense with one great player, Alabama and LSU have 8 or 9 players on that level. The difference in TOP is because you score quickly rather than the offenses keeping the ball out of your hands and scoring nearly every possession. You will not run up and down the field against Alabama or LSU.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22229 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 8:11 am to
Oregon is just another "high-powered" west offense that would be held to 20 if they played a top SEC team.
Posted by chalupa
Member since Jan 2011
6816 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 8:18 am to
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Do you guys ever get tired of making this invalid point? It's not 2010. It's not 2011.


So you not understand the point? The point is its the same song and dance every year with Oregon. They run points up on shitty teams and think they can beat anyone.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5287 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 9:34 am to
In past years your point is valid. However it's been 110 weeks since O opened with LSU in 2011.

In that time they have lost 2 games by a combined 6 points. You really think they are the same team they were then.

Does LSU have the same defense as 2011 ?
Does Alabama?

Oregon has SEC size, SEC speed, and experience. You guys are just too much SEC SEC SEC. The college football world has changed, the ACC and PAC12 elite can play, and if you want to walk around with your head up your *** that's fine. But your not being honest with yourself.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5287 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 9:41 am to
One other thing....

Look at Bama - AM game...

AM hung 42. With basically 2 offensive weapons.

Oregon has a lot more weapons than that , and Oregon actually has a defense.
Posted by PortCityTiger82
Shreveport, LA
Member since Nov 2010
6640 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 9:47 am to
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2010 is relevant to 2013 how? The roster is entirely different, big boy. Our QB is a dual threat, nothing at all like Darron Thomas and the defense is improved. We routinely force the most turnovers in the nation. Since the beginning of the 2010 season we've lost only 4 games, 3 of them by a mere field goal. Oregon is already running with the big dogs. Continue playing your weak arse schedule. Beat up on the Colorado States and the Chattanoogas. It won't prepare you for the coming storm.


You routinely force the most turnover because you get ahead early and teams are forced to play catch up throwing the ball. It won't play out that way vs the big boys with an actual defense and it's already been proven before. Oregon has a good team built to whip up on their conference but you don't have the size to do it against the big boys in ours!
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 9:59 am to
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You scoffing at Stanford and UCLA while Bama plays garbage opposition for the rest of their schedule (LSU excluded) didn't merit a reply. The idiocy is plain enough.


We're not scoffing UCLA or Stanford - you guys haven't even PLAYED them yet.

You've played one decent team, that was beaten up by Stanford. You have plenty of chances to prove your worth that doesn't involve running up the score on East-West Poly Tech.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 10:00 am to
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One other thing....

Look at Bama - AM game...

AM hung 42. With basically 2 offensive weapons.

Oregon has a lot more weapons than that , and Oregon actually has a defense.


Second game of the season. If you think Alabama's defense hasn't been getting better, you don't know much about football.
Posted by ALTiger
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
3031 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 10:08 am to
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The college football world has changed, the ACC and PAC12 elite can play, and if you want to walk around with your head up your *** that's fine.


When they prove it on the field, against SEC elite, we will take them seriously.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5287 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 10:13 am to
So Alabama gets better , yet no one else does. You are the one that needs a tutorial.

More like your competition has gotten easier
This post was edited on 10/17/13 at 10:14 am
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
11980 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 10:15 am to
Threads like this humor me. I hate Alabama more than is good for my health, but they are still the best team in the country, they're still undefeated, and LSU will not beat them this year. Nor will anyone most likely. If AU keeps getting better they've got a chance I guess, just because it's at home and the rivalry. But I'm not holding my breath.

So, I don't see Oregon doing anything to Bama an SEC team can't do. Until I see otherwise, unfortunately I'm chalking up another NATTY to the devil himself aka scum of the earth aka Nicky Saban. I'm gonna go die now
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5287 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 10:18 am to
LSU off line- AVG 377 6'5"
Def line- AVG 277 6'4"

OREGON OFF LINE AVG 300 6'4
Def line. AVG 288 6'5

Looks like pretty even, however based on Oregons pace, they are probably better conditioned .
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 10:25 am to
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Oregon has SEC size, SEC speed, and experience. You guys are just too much SEC SEC SEC. The college football world has changed, the ACC and PAC12 elite can play, and if you want to walk around with your head up your *** that's fine. But your not being honest with yourself.


What are you talking about?

Oregon is fast, at least in terms of skill positions and overall offensive tempo. Nobody denies that. They certainly aren't evenly matched in size -- or, rather strength -- with the elite SEC teams. People talk about Stanford providing a measuring tape, but, while Stanford is certainly talented and tough, they don't have quite the level of personnel that teams like LSU and Bama have on the line. Oregon simply won't face a situation like that unless and until they meet one of these teams in a bowl game. It's all well and good to get moony-eyed over Oregon's pace and numbers, but it's not really rational to assume they can do the same thing against teams who have the players with size, speed, and coaching (that's an important one) for great gap control and getting to the second level. People talk about A&M racking up points on Bama, for instance, but A&M has a great offensive line (in distinction from its defensive one) and half the time, the still-green Bama defense was putting pressure on Manziel. Manziel is just the wriggliest little nightcrawler imaginable in his position. The rest of the team didn't even combine for the rushing yards Manziel put up. Do you honestly think that Oregon will fare any better in the trenches against Bama or LSU? Or even USCe? Oregon simply hasnt' -- and won't -- face the level of trench control that the major contenders in the SEC possess. Until they do, it's almost impossible to give them the complete respect they claim they deserve.

For all this talk of Oregon's offensive output, they remind me of certain OU teams of old. They score and score and keep scoring even when they don't need to because they feel it's expected of them. It's not fair, in theory, to judge them if they don't go video game mode, but I have no sympathy -- they chose this style. Major SEC teams tend to go into clock-eating mode once their lead is comfortable, but they're perfectly capable of putting up huge numbers if necessary. And, like certain OU teams of old, there will always be fans out there dazzled by the numbers and ignorant of the type of competition they've faced...and the fact that the opponent that finally beats them won't be beating them by playing the same style, they'll be beating them by using style and personnel that specifically counters them.
This post was edited on 10/17/13 at 10:26 am
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