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re: What is the least talented team to win the NC in the 2010’s.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 8:46 pm to ReauxlTide222
Posted on 2/28/21 at 8:46 pm to ReauxlTide222
That is crazy I never knew that team was so stacked
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 8:50 pm to BamaIsGoat
On paper they should have dominated us in the NCG
Posted on 2/28/21 at 8:52 pm to plazadweller
Auburn’s rushing attack late into 2013 was unstoppable
Posted on 2/28/21 at 8:55 pm to BamaIsGoat
Was 2013 or 2014 the season they had so many 2nd half comebacks? I think it was 2014.
Either way, those 2 FSU teams were a TON of fun to watch.
Winston’s turnover problems in his Championship defending season were mind blowing to me, though.
ETA: 25 TDs 18 INTs on a championship level team for a heisman #1 overall pick is absolutely insane. And knowing him he probably fumbled ~5 times too.
If an Alabama QB threw 18 picks Saban would have them murdered(probably around the 10th INT).
Either way, those 2 FSU teams were a TON of fun to watch.
Winston’s turnover problems in his Championship defending season were mind blowing to me, though.
ETA: 25 TDs 18 INTs on a championship level team for a heisman #1 overall pick is absolutely insane. And knowing him he probably fumbled ~5 times too.
If an Alabama QB threw 18 picks Saban would have them murdered(probably around the 10th INT).
This post was edited on 2/28/21 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 2/28/21 at 9:13 pm to BamaIsGoat
After 2010 Auburn this is actually pretty tough.
Are we factoring in NFL success? Cause if so, 2011 Bama might actually have an argument for second place considering Trent busted and nobody else on offense did a damn thing. The defense had Hightower, Moseley, and Kirkpatrick but that’s really it for NFL success.
In terms of NFL output OSU was top notch, they had Zeke, Bosa, and Michael Thomas on that team.
FSU was loaded at the time but outside of Jalen Ramsey can’t really think of a stud NFL guy. Kind of the same with 2016 Clemson besides Deshaun Watson.
I might put 2016 Clemson behind Auburn in 2nd place or this may be blasphemy but 2011 Bama I think has to be considered if NFL success is factored. It’s a tough list to make if you’re comparing talent at the time vs NFL success once they went pro. That can distort things quite a bit. Because that 2011 Bama team was amazing, but looking at NFL success it’s pretty underwhelming.
Are we factoring in NFL success? Cause if so, 2011 Bama might actually have an argument for second place considering Trent busted and nobody else on offense did a damn thing. The defense had Hightower, Moseley, and Kirkpatrick but that’s really it for NFL success.
In terms of NFL output OSU was top notch, they had Zeke, Bosa, and Michael Thomas on that team.
FSU was loaded at the time but outside of Jalen Ramsey can’t really think of a stud NFL guy. Kind of the same with 2016 Clemson besides Deshaun Watson.
I might put 2016 Clemson behind Auburn in 2nd place or this may be blasphemy but 2011 Bama I think has to be considered if NFL success is factored. It’s a tough list to make if you’re comparing talent at the time vs NFL success once they went pro. That can distort things quite a bit. Because that 2011 Bama team was amazing, but looking at NFL success it’s pretty underwhelming.
This post was edited on 2/28/21 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 2/28/21 at 9:22 pm to Frac the world
Agree with most of your points especially looking through the lens of NFL success
Posted on 2/28/21 at 9:26 pm to BamaIsGoat
quote:That FSU team was stacked.
Think of all the talented teams in that decade. FSU is on the bottom end of that list
Posted on 2/28/21 at 9:28 pm to dchog
quote:No, they wouldn’t have. Auburn would’ve still beaten Arkansas, just like everyone else that year.
Arkansas would have pulled it out in the end
Posted on 2/28/21 at 9:29 pm to dchog
quote:I was at that game.
If Mallet didn't get hurt then that game would had a different result. Arkansas would have pulled it out in the end because they had a well balanced offense that could destroy a defense in the air and carve them up on the ground. But taking out Mallet was the game winner for Auburn.
Wilson was 25-34 for 332 yards and 4 TDs, he looked considerably better than Mallet did (he went out at the early in the 2nd quarter having gone 10-15 for 95 yards). Wilson proceeded to complete 16 of his first 18 passes and lead y'all to 4 consecutive TDs. I daresay Mallet wouldn't have done any better.
What killed you (and what kept us in the game) was ST play. We scored 2 TDs off a blocked punt deep in your territory and a 99-yard KO return. Wilson didn't throw his first INT until about 9 minutes left in the game, when we were already up by 8 points.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:53 pm to AUCE05
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11 and 17 Bama didn't win their division.
OP wasn’t asking least dominant, he was asking least talented. That 2011 and 2017 Bama teams still had loads of talents. The 2011 numbers have already been posted here before.
That 2017 Bama team had Hurts and Tua at QB. FOUR first rounders at WR. Another 2 WRs that went undrafted but each started NFL games. 2nd round pick at TE, 2nd round pick at RB, and another 1st rounder in RB Jacobs. 3/5 starting OL are in the NFL with 2 being staters. 1 of the backups was a 1st round pick with another one a possibility. The defense has 8 guys who are starters in the NFL. Even have a starting punter.
This post was edited on 2/28/21 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 2/28/21 at 11:52 pm to SidewalkTiger
That 2013 Fsu team was loaded. All 22 starters played in the NFL. The only close game for Fsu was the national championship game with Auburn that year. They blew out everyone else.
Sec fans are not going to like it but that Fsu team averaged more points than the 2019 Lsu and 2020 Alabama teams. Plus the Fsu team had a top 5 defense. Based on proven stats the 2013 team is was more dominant than both is one ofthe greatest teams ever.
Sec fans are not going to like it but that Fsu team averaged more points than the 2019 Lsu and 2020 Alabama teams. Plus the Fsu team had a top 5 defense. Based on proven stats the 2013 team is was more dominant than both is one ofthe greatest teams ever.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 12:37 am to BamaIsGoat
Four first round picks and five second round picks from the starters that year, but okay.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 5:00 am to BamaIsGoat
2021 bama?
Posted on 3/1/21 at 5:59 am to swinetime
Jimbo was racking in the talent down in Tallahassee. I think it was the barner team and they were fortunate to be playing a Chip Kelly Oregon.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 7:23 am to 1BamaRTR
2017 had a lot of great players but id imagine if you just looked at starting 22, it would tell a slightly different story.
Also had a lot of injuries that year
Also had a lot of injuries that year
Posted on 3/1/21 at 7:37 am to AUCE05
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11 and 17 Bama didn't win their division.
A fact that, while true, has absolutely nothing to do with the question posed by the OP.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:22 am to plazadweller
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On paper they should have dominated us in the NCG
I think people somewhat misremember things. That FSU team didn't have a single close game all year. None of their games until Auburn came within one score, and I think a two TD win at Boston College was the one time they didn't win by 30+. But Auburn was somewhat of a Cinderella story that year. They seemed to be in the NCG by divine providence, and I think they were up by 18 on FSU at halftime. It came down to "who has the ball last wins" and now everyone remembers that Florida State team as the NC winners who could barely beat what should have been a massive underdog.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:26 am to JustGetItRight
Talent vs Coaching ? Better question is why those teams lost a game, same in 2011. We all know Bama has had the best talent the last 10 years, but without the Mulligans what would the conversation be.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:30 am to AUCE05
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11 and 17 Bama didn't win their division.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:36 am to viceman
Mulligan U.
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