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re: What is Roughing the Passer anymore?
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:14 am to RidiculousHype
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:14 am to RidiculousHype
The correct answer is C - Neither
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:14 am to RidiculousHype
Roughing the Passer
ARTICLE 9
b. When an offensive player is in a passing posture with one or both feet on
the ground, no defensive player rushing unabated shall hit him forcibly at
the knee area or below. The defensive player also may not initiate a roll or
lunge and forcibly hit this opponent in the knee area or below. [
ARTICLE 9
b. When an offensive player is in a passing posture with one or both feet on
the ground, no defensive player rushing unabated shall hit him forcibly at
the knee area or below. The defensive player also may not initiate a roll or
lunge and forcibly hit this opponent in the knee area or below. [
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:15 am to RidiculousHype
Neither should be...however, in the top one the QB still has the ball in his hand when contact is initiated. In the bottom one, he has already released the ball and the defender chose to lunge at the QB, putting his eyes where he could not determine if he still had the ball or not. If they were going to call one of them roughing, it would make much more sense in #2 than in #1.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:16 am to RidiculousHype
RTP is subjective, according to the ref that calls it. for instance, the 1st one would have resulted in targeting call and immediate ejection if the defender wore red and blue.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:16 am to ALA2262
So the hip is now below the knee?
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:17 am to REBSontheRISE
Or purple and gold
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:17 am to EasterEgg
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The top one is closer to fitting the definition of targeting: helmet to helmet and launching are both clearly present.
He put his facemask into the QB's chestplate. No way that would be considered targeting.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:17 am to RidiculousHype
It was borderline, but when in doubt they will call a hit below the waist.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:25 am to TiderNAL
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Alabama was flagged for a lineman's hand literally grazing the QB's helmet.
see that's total bullshite.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:26 am to Oilfieldbiology
I would love to know where you're supposed to tackle a QB now
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:34 am to MightyYat
I don't know what y'all are looking at. He clearly hits him at knee level.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:04 pm to madmaxvol
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He put his facemask into the QB's chestplate. No way that would be considered targeting.
And in doing so the crown of the helmet went straight into the QB's chin. IIRC, Burrow had a bloody mouth after that play.
It was actually similar to White's hit on Fitzgerald, and tRant defended that one as targeting. You're letting your biases get in the way of objectivity.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:09 pm to RidiculousHype
I recently talked with a guy that spent a few years in the NFL as a DB, He said it best, All these new rules are eliminating Defense
Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:10 pm to RidiculousHype
Neither. They’re both clean hits. The enforcement of contact rules is bullshite across the board.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:11 pm to Bosethus68
Going for the knees will draw the flag every time. Especially since the ball is gone
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:12 pm to RidiculousHype
Well...the knee bone's connected to the..thigh bone. The thigh bone's connected to the...hip bone...so I guess it's close to the knee that way.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:16 pm to Rougarou13
The correct answer is in both cases no flag should be thrown.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:25 pm to tigger1
In the NFL the QB might as well wear a flag. If you're a good passer in a few years you'll be able to play in the league. Stand back there with ease, they won't be able to touch you.
The physicality is being taken out of the game. Dick Butkus would get arrested today.
The physicality is being taken out of the game. Dick Butkus would get arrested today.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:27 pm to elposter
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Bottom one is borderline. Guy diving for the QBs knees which is illegal now. Hit him right around the knee area. Could have gone either way.
AKA, the hip.
I'm convinced you guys are just trolling.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:37 pm to ColoradoAg
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Going for the knees will draw the flag every time. Especially since the ball is gone
haha now they're just messing with us..........keep it up a holes!
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