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re: What is more important - Weeks ranked as AP #1 or National Championships
Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:28 am to genro
Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:28 am to genro
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All that's really important is a personal relationship with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
Who does he play for? Sounds like maybe a baseball player.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:35 am to BooShaker
Well we don't cheat like Bama. Remember the last time they got caught and had to schedule Hawaii because cheaters can't go to bowl games. Some states have more to offer than a good college football team, some don't so they have to cheat
Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:40 am to MSHawg1
Your post history suggests you are obsessed with Mississippi State. Your posts smell a lot like envy and it's sad.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:47 am to meansonny
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If AP doesn't recognize it, then it probably didn't happen.
2003 final AP poll: #1 Southern Cal., #2 LSU
2003 BCS champion: LSU
Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:51 am to LB84
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Bama's in 64 is BS.
Bama lost to Texas in the Orange Bowl while Arkansas beat Texas in Austin and was undefeated.
Rightly or wrongly the national champion was decided before the bowl games in those days, Alabama is the only legitimate Champ in 64.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:00 am to TheOtherSide
LSU beat the loser of the big xii championship in your bowl game.
USC beat the winner of the big x championship.
Split title.
You probably shouldn't have lost to Florida at home.
USC lost at Cal in overtime.
I'm sorry.
USC beat the winner of the big x championship.
Split title.
You probably shouldn't have lost to Florida at home.
USC lost at Cal in overtime.
I'm sorry.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:52 am to MSHawg1
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if the math checks out
It doesn't
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:08 am to LB84
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Bama's in 64 is BS.
Bama lost to Texas in the Orange Bowl
AP Champions who lost their bowl game besides Bama....
OU (10-1) lost Sugar bowl game to Kentucky in 1950
Tennessee (10-1) lost Sugar bowl to Maryland 1951
Maryland (10-1) lost Orange bowl to Oklahoma 1953
Minnesota (8-2) lost Rose bowl to Washington 1960
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:12 am to jatebe
You guys claim 73 in which you lost the bowl game and the AP Poll put you at 4? What's the explanation there?
64 just seems clear cut. Arkansas is undefeated while Bama's lone loss was to a Texas squad that only lost to Arkansas.
64 just seems clear cut. Arkansas is undefeated while Bama's lone loss was to a Texas squad that only lost to Arkansas.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 10:15 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:14 am to LB84
Won the other major poll that year. Coaches/UPI poll.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:24 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:What's funny is the next year (1965), AP didn't vote until after the bowl game.
Alabama is the only legitimate Champ in 64.
Arkansas was undefeated & ranked #2 (#1 at one time); Bama had dropped out of the AP poll after losing and tying a game. Bama got back in and worked their way back up to #4 before the bowl games.
#1 Mich St. lost in Rose bowl to UCLA
#2 Arkansas lost in Cotton bowl to LSU
#4 Bama went to Orange Bowl, beat #3 Neb.
Bama became 1965 AP champions.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:26 am to MSHawg1
It's the battle of who has a tooth and who has two teeth
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:27 am to genro
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All that's really important is a personal relationship with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
Does he have a Heisman vote?
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:27 am to meansonny
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LSU beat the loser of the big xii championship in your bowl game.
USC beat the winner of the big x championship.
Split title.
You probably shouldn't have lost to Florida at home.
USC lost at Cal in overtime.
I'm sorry.
The concept of a split title ended when the Bowl Alliance became the BCS. The conferences sanctioned the BCS as the national championship game and the polls became simply a part of that formula to determine who would play in that game.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 10:28 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:27 am to jatebe
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What's funny is the next year (1965), AP didn't vote until after the bowl game.
Arkansas was undefeated & ranked #2 (#1 at one time); Bama had dropped out of the AP poll after losing and tying a game. Bama got back in and worked their way back up to #4 before the bowl games.
#1 Mich St. lost in Rose bowl to UCLA
#2 Arkansas lost in Cotton bowl to LSU
#4 Bama went to Orange Bowl, beat #3 Neb.
Bama became 1965 AP champions.
Right. So if Alabama was the champion for 64, then Arkansas was the champion for 65 and vice versa
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:28 am to MSHawg1
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So if Alabama was the champion for 64, then Arkansas was the champion for 65 and vice versa
No. The polls changed the procedure after 1964 to include bowls. 64 is the cut off.
You’re making me defend Alabama
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 10:34 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:30 am to MSHawg1
We just went by what the polls said
Polls didn't work in our favor in 1966
Polls didn't work in our favor in 1966
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:31 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Your making me defend Alabama
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Your making
Not sure that you are helping the argument
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:39 am to Draconian Sanctions
But to close up the conversation. The definition of "champion" is "best". Arkansas was the best team in the country in 64, so they were the national champions
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