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re: What if Saban never left LSU
Posted on 6/25/16 at 4:45 pm to Montgomery Hill
Posted on 6/25/16 at 4:45 pm to Montgomery Hill
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Posted on 6/25/16 at 4:46 pm to BamaNixon
quote:The level of cheating under Saban has shot through the roof. LSU wouldn't have been able to repeatedly publicly admit to cheating and not get nailed like Ole Miss. Emmert and Saban being in place just allowed the Bama boosters to run wild and all number of the #1 recruiting classes in a row show it. Bama wasn't getting them before Saban and we wasn't getting them like that either.
This makes so much sense considering all the recruiting and on the field success of the Bama coaches between Stallings and Saban.
Saban didn't just suddenly become a better coach when he arrived at Bama. So it's something else that made him win more. If you weren't wearing your Crimson glasses you would see that. LSU boosters wouldn't have went to the depths or have a system in place that Bama does even if Saban stayed and Emmert was letting them do what they want.
This post was edited on 6/25/16 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 6/25/16 at 4:47 pm to LSU GrandDad
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saban won the natty at LSU and basically turned very unhappy with college football.
I believe Nick Saban was extremely happy with CFB. I believe Wayne Huizenga, one of the GOAT salesman, sold him on the NFL and the Dolphins. Didn't take Saban long to find out it was not for him.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 4:47 pm to LSU GrandDad
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saban won the natty at LSU and basically turned very unhappy with college football.
I believe Nick Saban was extremely happy with CFB. I believe Wayne Huizenga, one of the GOAT salesman, sold him on the NFL and the Dolphins. Didn't take Saban long to find out it was not for him.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 4:58 pm to Rabern57
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Saban didn't just suddenly become a better coach when he arrived at Bama. So it's something else that made him win more. If you weren't wearing your Crimson glasses you would see that.
Agreed. You are completely sane, as shown by Saban's lack of success in recruiting and winning at LSU. I mean, it's not like his recruits won a natty there and contributed at some level to a second. If they had, then your posts would be a symptom of a victim mentality. Saban was a mid-tier talent as a coach at LSU, which is why he had to take an NFL head coaching job (no college would have wanted him!) before being matched up with a cheating mentality at Bama, which FINALLY lifted him above his well-known reputation as an average coach.
He obviously conned LSU and the NFL into thinking he was a good coach. Luckily, we have you, a poster on an Internet message board, to counter the opinions of unqualified dummies.
This post was edited on 6/25/16 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 6/25/16 at 5:05 pm to Rabern57
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The level of cheating under Saban has shot through the roof. LSU wouldn't have been able to repeatedly publicly admit to cheating and not get nailed like Ole Miss. Emmert and Saban being in place just allowed the Bama boosters to run wild and all number of the #1 recruiting classes in a row show it. Bama wasn't getting them before Saban and we wasn't getting them like that either.
Saban didn't just suddenly become a better coach when he arrived at Bama. So it's something else that made him win more. If you weren't wearing your Crimson glasses you would see that. LSU boosters wouldn't have went to the depths or have a system in place that Bama does even if Saban stayed and Emmert was letting them do what they want.
But yet, I bet you're one of the Auburn fans that will say that though Cam Newton and his Dad asked Mississippi State for pay for play, he went to Auburn because he loved it. Yes, no, maybe? An Auburn fan chiding any other program about "the level of cheating" is a good one.
This post was edited on 6/25/16 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 6/25/16 at 5:06 pm to BamaNixon
LSU made Saban. It's the LSU greatness that seeped into his pores and permeated his entire being that has made him successful at Alabama. Without his critical time that we graciously allowed and tolerated his presence at LSU he would be completely out of football. Maybe working as a carnie. Or that guy that works at the strip club that stands outside the door and tries to convince you that the dirty, dirty girls inside will blow you.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 5:06 pm to Montgomery Hill
A more interesting question would be where would both programs be today had he drowned in that accident back around 2002 at his summer home in Georgia. And no, I'm not wishing he had, just posing as what might exist in some parallel universe.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 5:09 pm to Litigator
Please stop. Until we would something them we can troll.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 5:10 pm to Lsupimp
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LSU made Saban. It's the LSU greatness that seeped into his pores and permeated his entire being that has made him successful at Alabama.
Tough for me to agree here. Saban is CONSIDERED above-average, because of all the cheating Bama dies. He was very average at LSU, and LSU was much, much better before he arrived there. I will say that you're right if you're implying that LSU ran him off because of his lack of success there and that LSU fans were glad he left and continue to be glad that his average arse is at Bama.
This post was edited on 6/25/16 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 6/25/16 at 5:13 pm to Montgomery Hill
He's had one undefeated season in his career ('09-BAMA). Really should have had several more at BAMA.
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Posted on 6/25/16 at 5:17 pm to Lsupimp
Agreed.
Texas A&M made Bear Bryant, too. Both men just needed better programs to take their success to the next level.
Texas A&M made Bear Bryant, too. Both men just needed better programs to take their success to the next level.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 5:20 pm to ALA2262
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I believe Nick Saban was extremely happy with CFB. I believe Wayne Huizenga, one of the GOAT salesman, sold him on the NFL and the Dolphins. Didn't take Saban long to find out it was not for him.
Saban always had an eye on the NFL.
Came up through the NFL
I don't think he had to be sold, but when he got there he realized dealign with professionals isn't dealign with kids who's lives you control.
ITs a personality thing.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 5:36 pm to BamaNixon
If he would have stayed at LSU eight more years he probably would have the same success . LSU would not have allowed any talent to leave the state under Saban, Bama would have wallowed with their usual hire, And the rest of the league would be status quo. More then likely Saban would have gotten a better job in the NFL and wouldn't have been a total failure like he was at Miami.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 5:41 pm to RollTide1987
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Texas A&M made Bear Bryant, too. Both men just needed better programs to take their success to the next level.
Bryant won an SEC title at UK, before he went to aTm.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 5:52 pm to Montgomery Hill
Bama would still suck and probably have fired another coach or two.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 5:55 pm to Montgomery Hill
The best coach in college football history would be incredibly successful at any school in the country.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 6:01 pm to Montgomery Hill
He would have never had the same success that he's had a Bama, he'd probably have 2-3 total NCs. LSU doesn't show enough commitment to excellence. They couldn't even gather enough gumption to fire Les.
Think about that.
Think about that.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 6:15 pm to Montgomery Hill
Saban would have would 10 national championships and they would be on a 107 game win streak had he never left LSU.
There is a parallel universe out there where Saban is still coaching LSU today. Unfortunately for all LSU fans reading this, they don't live in that parallel universe.
There is a parallel universe out there where Saban is still coaching LSU today. Unfortunately for all LSU fans reading this, they don't live in that parallel universe.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 6:27 pm to Montgomery Hill
Obvious texag7 alter, RA'd
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