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re: What does Nick Saban do that is so different from other coaches?
Posted on 10/27/13 at 7:18 am to StringedInstruments
Posted on 10/27/13 at 7:18 am to StringedInstruments
He buys good players. Simple. 
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Posted on 10/27/13 at 7:21 am to TeLeFaWx
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TeLeFaWx
Demand excellence? All coaches demand excellence.
bullshite. Go try to convince any Vol fan that Derek Dooley demanded excellence. Or Lane Kiffin. Or Phil Fulmer. Vol fans haven't had a coach that demanded excellence in God knows when.
Demanding excellence means that you back up the tough talk with actions...punishment during workouts or off the field, loss of playing time, suspensions, whatever.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 7:23 am to weagle99
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Posted by weagle99 In Auburn's case we are on our 3rd coach since Saban arrived. I fully believe Gus the right guy to go up against Saban though.
I believe this to be delusional. Just a few games this year,( and not even played Bama yet) had convinced you of this?
Posted on 10/27/13 at 7:28 am to StringedInstruments
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Alabama is now on their sixth year of dominating a conference known for its parity
2 conference titles in 6 years is "dominating"? Steve Spurrier LOLs at that notion.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 7:30 am to BamaGradinTn
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bullshite. Go try to convince any Vol fan that Derek Dooley demanded excellence. Or Lane Kiffin. Or Phil Fulmer. Vol fans haven't had a coach that demanded excellence in God knows when.
My God. Y'all really believe that because Dooley was a nerd, and Kiffin was a prick, that Saban is the only coach that demands excellence? You gumps are hilarious.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 7:40 am to TeLeFaWx
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TeLeFaWx
What does Nick Saban do that is so different from other coaches?
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bullshite. Go try to convince any Vol fan that Derek Dooley demanded excellence. Or Lane Kiffin. Or Phil Fulmer. Vol fans haven't had a coach that demanded excellence in God knows when.
My God. Y'all really believe that because Dooley was a nerd, and Kiffin was a prick, that Saban is the only coach that demands excellence? You gumps are hilarious.
Don't be an idiot. No one said that Saban was the only one. You were the one who said all coaches demand excellence. I was merely pointing out the stupidity of your remark.
EDIT: Fulmer, if he ever did, stopped demanding excellence from his players and staff long before he got fired.
This post was edited on 10/27/13 at 7:42 am
Posted on 10/27/13 at 7:44 am to CBandits82
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100% attention to detail in every single part of the game
And we're Miles apart from it!
Posted on 10/27/13 at 7:54 am to otowntiger
They don't give Rings for consistently having Championship level teams, but doing this in the SEC might be one of Saban's best accomplishments. It's very tough to do with so many other top programs chasing you in the SEC. I know this Bama run will come to an end eventually, but if it continues another 2+ years it will go down as one of the best runs ever. Especially when considering the parity in today's CFB landscape. Over the years, Saban surely has perfected building & running a program.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:26 am to StringedInstruments
doesnt get caught or punished by his good buddy Emmertt
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:37 am to StringedInstruments
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It isn't recruiting. LSU, Florida, Georgia, even Auburn have all had top quality recruiting classes for multiple years. They haven't been able to sustain that level of dominance.
I would disagree with this.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:37 am to StringedInstruments
1. Signs as good or better players than anybody else
2. Surrounds himself with great Assistant Coaches
Saban is arguably the best coach in college football but don't kid yourself. He wouldn't have the same success a most other schools like Auburn, Texas A & M, Missouri, Kentucky, and others.
Don't believe it? Just go look at his record at Michigan State. Saban and Bama is a perfect fit and once he leaves there will never be another run like it anywhere.
2. Surrounds himself with great Assistant Coaches
Saban is arguably the best coach in college football but don't kid yourself. He wouldn't have the same success a most other schools like Auburn, Texas A & M, Missouri, Kentucky, and others.
Don't believe it? Just go look at his record at Michigan State. Saban and Bama is a perfect fit and once he leaves there will never be another run like it anywhere.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:38 am to StringedInstruments
Saban stresses preparation, fundimentals, and discipline. The attention to details is like no other. If you heard him last night talk about the break down on special teams he explained that freshmen didn't stay in their lanes and shook his head.
For some reason most coaches don't concentrate on the fundamentals of tackling and blocking. You don't see many defensive players whiff on a tackle or be out of the position.
He hammers into the players over and over and over again.
Some ooaches love the parties and events where the boosters tell them how great they are and Saban hates that. He hates the business part of the college football and leaves that to Terry. He is in heaven coaching young players and making them better.
For some reason most coaches don't concentrate on the fundamentals of tackling and blocking. You don't see many defensive players whiff on a tackle or be out of the position.
He hammers into the players over and over and over again.
Some ooaches love the parties and events where the boosters tell them how great they are and Saban hates that. He hates the business part of the college football and leaves that to Terry. He is in heaven coaching young players and making them better.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:39 am to Bench McElroy
I'll take "COACHING" for 1000 please.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:39 am to Dice410
It really is a combination of all the things already mentioned: tireless work, attention to detail in preparation and recruiting.
Also, the rest of the SEC has been in a transition type period or several years. Florida had UM leave. Ole Miss, Miss State, Arky, Auburn, Tennessee all have changed coaches. Bama and LSU have taken advantage of this.
Also, the rest of the SEC has been in a transition type period or several years. Florida had UM leave. Ole Miss, Miss State, Arky, Auburn, Tennessee all have changed coaches. Bama and LSU have taken advantage of this.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:55 am to oleheat
losing that november 5 2011 game was one of the best things that could have happened to him. he let his qb loose in the next big game and you could really see the trust they started to show in mccarron in that iron bowl.
everything else has already been addressed. going to the nfl and not having the success he thought he'd have made him a better coach. the way bama pursued him helped create that extra aura about him. he's a great teacher and learned from some of the best.
everything else has already been addressed. going to the nfl and not having the success he thought he'd have made him a better coach. the way bama pursued him helped create that extra aura about him. he's a great teacher and learned from some of the best.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 9:00 am to StringedInstruments
Recruiting
Coaching
Discipline
Doesn't need to win the conference to win NCships
Makes a good schedules(Obligatory)
Friends with Emmert
Coaching
Discipline
Doesn't need to win the conference to win NCships
Makes a good schedules(Obligatory)
Friends with Emmert
Posted on 10/27/13 at 9:05 am to otowntiger
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I believe this to be delusional. Just a few games this year,( and not even played Bama yet) had convinced you of this?
Gus has a very high attention to detail and appears to administer quick discipline when needed. When he was at Auburn as OC he lived in his office, and I am guessing he still works just as hard.
So yes, I am optimistic about his chances against Saban.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 9:06 am to LSUFrosty
Pretty simple really.
1. Recruiting- aided by Dodge Chargers, free suits, free trips and laptops, and cash from members of the coaching staff.
2. Processing all busts to make room for the maximum number of 4/5 star talent.
3. Injecting absurd amounts of performance enhancing drugs into already high quality athletes leads to wins and a number of high draft picks which in turn further aids in recruiting. The fact that they are destroying their bodies and all break down on the next level is irrelevant to bama as long as they continue to win.
4. Schedule
5. Emmert/ESPN
Perfect storm is right.
1. Recruiting- aided by Dodge Chargers, free suits, free trips and laptops, and cash from members of the coaching staff.
2. Processing all busts to make room for the maximum number of 4/5 star talent.
3. Injecting absurd amounts of performance enhancing drugs into already high quality athletes leads to wins and a number of high draft picks which in turn further aids in recruiting. The fact that they are destroying their bodies and all break down on the next level is irrelevant to bama as long as they continue to win.
4. Schedule
5. Emmert/ESPN
Perfect storm is right.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 9:13 am to SquirrelyBama
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They don't give Rings for consistently having Championship level teams, but doing this in the SEC might be one of Saban's best accomplishments. It's very tough to do with so many other top programs chasing you in the SEC. I know this Bama run will come to an end eventually, but if it continues another 2+ years it will go down as one of the best runs ever. Especially when considering the parity in today's CFB landscape. Over the years, Saban surely has perfected building & running a program.
IMO, it already is. Huge difference in today's football world and the football world during da Bear's day, today you can't give out 200 scholarships to bench warmers to keep your competition from having any players worth a crap.
Say what you will about coaches loaning players money, handing out Dodge Chargers with your name on them as you walk in the door,creative uses of medical redshirts, or agents buying players bedroom suites, but the 85 scholarship rule ensures a whole new level of parity across the board.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 9:15 am to StringedInstruments
quote:This is where you're wrong. Recruiting is one of the main reasons but you have to recruit to your system and properly evaluate the talent that you do get and put them in the right position that fits to the players and the programs/system strengths.
It isn't recruiting. LSU, Florida, Georgia, even Auburn have all had top quality recruiting classes for multiple years. They haven't been able to sustain that level of dominance.
Saban is the main reason because he pays attention to "every" little detail and that's why he will be mad on a certain play, "even though it was a positive play" there is always room for improvement and playing "to a standard" no matter what the score or who the opponent is. If the players do this then they never really come into a game "not ready" or "flat." Even when Bama does have a down game the talent they have due to coaching and god given will still out match the other opponent.
JMHO...You would have to actually ask Saban why he thinks his "system" works the best. I hope some fellow Bama OP's can comment on anything that I may have missed or their opinion.
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