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re: What are some reforms the NCAA could make that would be universally accepted by CFB?

Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105014 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:56 pm to
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The problem is I like the CFB rules better and don't want them changed. For example, only one foot needed in bounds for a completion. And knee down you are down whether you are touched or not. And clock stops on 1st down until ball is set.


Agree with all of those
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68665 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 4:12 pm to
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- Uniform replay system across CFB - same equipment, views, camera quality, etc everywhere.

yes
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- Full time referees, at least at the P5 level supplied by the NCAA. This would help to cover the costs of flying around the country to do different games each week, training both professionally and physically, etc. Use the NFL model. Even possibly see if the NFL (and HS for that matter) would be interested in a loose affiliation to help with standards/training/etc.

yes
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- Targeting rule changed to a Level I and Level II targeting penalty like intentional fouls in basketball, with both being reviewable. Level I foul is a penalty and a 2nd of those gets you ejected. It is a "targeting" but ruled to be without intent. Level II is egregious or with intent and you get 15 yards and are ejected.

10000000% yes
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- Go back to the old facemask rules. It's ridiculous to have a guy graze a facemask on a 3rd and 23 sack and the other team get an auto first down.

Eh, I don't know, that call was far too subjective previously. And honestly, I don't feel like they call facemask as much as they used to either, although I could be wrong.
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- Get rid of the ball through the end zone touchback. Just doesn't make any logical sense.

I assume you mean if you fumble the ball through the end zone. yes, this rule makes no logical sense. It should be brought back to the spot of the fumble just like a ball fumbled out of bounds goes to the spot it went OOB unless it was fumbled forward, it goes to the spot of the fumble. Makes no sense to give the ball to the other team if no one secures possession.


Other rule ideas:

1. get rid of the new rule where you can call for a fair catch on kickoffs when caught outside the end zone and allow the team to start at the 25.
2. Provide for an appeals process by a third-party body in the NCAA for any violation that results in a suspension of any game time. Obviously I'm referring to targeting calls in the 2nd half. If targeting is called in the first half, the NCAA body must review the play at half-time.
3. Remove all penalties for celebration and/or "taunting"
4. This may not be a popular opinion, but I've always thought offensive PI being a 15 yard penalty was dumb. Just make it a loss of downs as if it were an incomplete pass and maybe tack on a 5 yard penalty.
5. Change OT rules to starting at the 40 yard line instead of the 25. There is no reason you should be in very make-able field goal range without gaining a yard.
6. I don't know how exactly this could be done, but I do believe all schools should have the same policies and procedures regarding off the field arrests, failed drug tests, etc. Either that or get rid of non performance enhancing drug testing period.
7. I also wish there was some way of replay calls not to have to be "indisputable video evidence." There are too many calls that are reviewed where you know however it was called on the field is how it's going to stand regardless if it's abundantly clear the wrong call was made but just not "indisputable"
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 4:17 pm
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
11492 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 4:16 pm to
I’m not a fan of being able to fair catch a kickoff in the field of play and have it considered a touchback. I get they are trying to limit full speed contact but it just isn’t football.
Posted by Literalist
Minnesota
Member since Oct 2014
3581 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 4:17 pm to
Admit Alabama is a pro team and put them in the NFL.
Posted by turftoes20
Member since Jan 2014
166 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 4:19 pm to
I dont think pass interference review would be good. Sure, there are some bad calls or no calls, but what about all the hand checking that goes on in about every play. To have to review these plays would add to game length.
I agree with target level 1 and 2 though.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 4:20 pm to
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I actually like that about the college game.

I used to but it makes games drag on now.

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If I wanted a pro adaptation, I would pick getting 2 feet in bounds for a reception.

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 4:27 pm to
Referees that have been caught exhibiting bias or actively rooting for one team or another DURING A GAME are not allowed to call another game.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105014 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 4:36 pm to
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I’m not a fan of being able to fair catch a kickoff in the field of play and have it considered a touchback. I get they are trying to limit full speed contact but it just isn’t football.


Agree - I get their intent but I dont like it either.

Also 100% agree with lsufbs ideas
Posted by TruDawg
228
Member since Oct 2018
60 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 4:50 pm to
Pass Interference changed to spot foul.

I honestly don't know why they don't have more cameras. Figure TV would pay for them for more angles.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68665 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 4:56 pm to
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Pass Interference changed to spot foul.

absolutely not
Posted by Moonwinx31
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2018
23 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 4:59 pm to
Change the rules however you please. Alabama is still going to dickslap all of us for the foreseeable future.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27805 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 5:24 pm to
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What does this mean?


Fumbles through the endzone by an offensive player = a turnover doesn't make any sense. Why does the other team get the ball because you fumbled into the end zone? If you fumble forward out of bounds anywhere else on the field you just get it back, but when you move all the way to the opponents end zone all of a sudden its a turnover?


I'd be willing to sacrifice the 2005 Tennessee win for the 2010 Auburn loss.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27805 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 5:29 pm to
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3. Remove all penalties for celebration and/or "taunting"


If you have no rules at all, at some point you're going to start to have brawls. Not good.

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5. Change OT rules to starting at the 40 yard line instead of the 25. There is no reason you should be in very make-able field goal range without gaining a yard.


Alabama-LSU 2011 would have gone on for another two hours. College overtime is about as perfect as it can be.

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And honestly, I don't feel like they call facemask as much as they used to either, although I could be wrong.


I think you're probably right, and it may be because of the face shields that many players also have...there is less of the facemask that can actually be grabbed.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 5:30 pm
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
65903 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 5:29 pm to
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Targeting rule changed to a Level I and Level II targeting penalty like intentional fouls in basketball, with both being reviewable. Level I foul is a penalty and a 2nd of those gets you ejected. It is a "targeting" but ruled to be without intent. Level II is egregious or with intent and you get 15 yards and are ejected.


This really needs to happen after this year, and I am not even talking about Devin White. So many silly targeting calls this year.

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Go back to the old facemask rules. It's ridiculous to have a guy graze a facemask on a 3rd and 23 sack and the other team get an auto first down.


I don't necessarily agree with this because in theory and based on current rules, your hypothetical "graze" wouldn't be called a facemask. This just needs to be called more consistently. No need for any penalty if it's completely incidental and not crucial to the play/tackle.

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Get rid of the ball through the end zone touchback. Just doesn't make any logical sense.


Hell yea. I always thought that was a dumb rule. If the defense can't recover it before it goes out of bounds, the ball stays with the offense at the point of the fumble.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27805 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 5:31 pm to
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I honestly don't know why they don't have more cameras. Figure TV would pay for them for more angles.


The issue is uniformity. Primetime CBS or ESPN? Sure. What about this week's Troy or UAB game? What network is televising them?
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 5:35 pm
Posted by UnAnon
Breaux Bridge
Member since Sep 2013
6568 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 5:33 pm to
Get the fricking referee from behind the Defense off the field or some where else.

Offenses take advantage of him too much.
Posted by Taurus 357
Great Lakes
Member since Dec 2014
4994 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 5:33 pm to
DMagic

I can definitely get on board with this.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
65903 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 5:38 pm to
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7. I also wish there was some way of replay calls not to have to be "indisputable video evidence." There are too many calls that are reviewed where you know however it was called on the field is how it's going to stand regardless if it's abundantly clear the wrong call was made but just not "indisputable"


Love this one too. If there is a dispute, and we are to assume that the person reviewing is as trained on the rules as the guys on the field, then the on-field call should be completely disregarded and the "ref" in the booth just call the play as he sees it in super slow motion with multiple angles. It's such a huge advantage that they should not have the burden of a call made in real time from one angle hanging around the ultimate call.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
55771 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 5:58 pm to
I think QB’s should wear skirts instead of pants and it should be two hand touch and they are down.
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
22079 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:02 pm to
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And yeah, if the Level II is essentially penalizing intent, then functionally half to maybe a whole game worth of suspension is not significant enough. Do dumb shite, cost yourself and your team.



The last fricking thing we need is the ref’s personal opinion determining a penalty. Lord knows there is enough of that already.
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