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re: Westgate Superbook USA releases 2020 Heisman Odds
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:09 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:09 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Jesus...take a look at the games he played from 2018 to 2019.
In each game he started, he went 10-5. It's not hard to look up.
In each game he started, he went 10-5. It's not hard to look up.
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:11 pm to Dawg4Life47
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Jesus...take a look at the games he played from 2018 to 2019.
In each game he started, he went 10-5. It's not hard to look up.
Yes, and that equates to going 8-4 over a 12 game season, which is basically in line with what Wake has done for the last 4 seasons.
It's not hard to look up.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:13 pm to diddlydawg7
Not gonna lie
I'm getting a $20 for Najee & Etienne
I'm getting a $20 for Najee & Etienne
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:13 pm to SummerOfGeorge
You are taking 12 games to conveniently skew your argument.
This makes your argument flawed.
He played in 15, the last 4 of 2018 and right into 2019.
This makes your argument flawed.
He played in 15, the last 4 of 2018 and right into 2019.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:14 pm to Dawg4Life47
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You are taking 12 games to conveniently skew your argument.
This makes your argument flawed.
He played in 15, the last 4 of 2018 and right into 2019.
Skew? Do you know how %'s work?
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:15 pm to SummerOfGeorge
You are conveniently taking 12 games and forgetting the other 3 games he won.
Why not say the other 8 games in 2018 he would have won them all. Viola...he is a 10 win QB at WF.
See how that works?!
Why not say the other 8 games in 2018 he would have won them all. Viola...he is a 10 win QB at WF.
See how that works?!
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:19 pm to Dawg4Life47
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You are conveniently taking 12 games and forgetting the other 3 games he won.
That's.......not.........are you serious?
He won 10 of 15 games.......that's 66% (10/15). If you apply 66% to a 12 game schedule (typical season schedule) it equates out to 8-4.
Do you understand this now?
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he is a 10 win QB at WF
I don't even know how to respond to this, but alright
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:22 pm to SummerOfGeorge
You just proved my original point that even as an 8 win starter, that is higher than WF is used too.
They are a perennial 6-7 win team with their previous QB's
The 10 game comment was me acting like you skewing numbers
If you take your 66% over a 13 game season, that is closer to 9 wins.
All my points = he is most likely going to ball out and why he is a top 4 heisman pick.
Get it ?
They are a perennial 6-7 win team with their previous QB's
The 10 game comment was me acting like you skewing numbers
If you take your 66% over a 13 game season, that is closer to 9 wins.
All my points = he is most likely going to ball out and why he is a top 4 heisman pick.
Get it ?
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:23 pm to diddlydawg7
Trevor Lawrence at 4-1 is a good bet.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:28 pm to Dawg4Life47
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You just proved my original point that even as an 8 win starter, that is higher than WF is used too.
They are a perennial 6-7 win team with their previous QB's
They literally won 8 games in 2017
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All my points = he is most likely going to ball out and why he is a top 4 heisman pick.
Yea, well, we'll see!
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:29 pm to StopRobot
I like these two...
T-6. Travis Etienne/Clemson (20-1)
T-6. Chuba Hubbard/Okla. St. (20-1)
T-6. Travis Etienne/Clemson (20-1)
T-6. Chuba Hubbard/Okla. St. (20-1)
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:30 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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They literally won 8 games in 2017
2015 >> 9 losses
2016 >> 6 losses
2017 >> 5 losses
2018 >> 6 losses >> 1 loss with Newman
2019 >> 4 losses with Newman
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 1/27/20 at 4:20 pm to diddlydawg7
This time last year burrow was 200-1.
Wish I’d put 100 on him to win
Wish I’d put 100 on him to win
Posted on 1/27/20 at 4:32 pm to skrayper
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No love for WRs, though, for the Heisman. Probably why their odds are so much lower.
bingo. Don't see Chase putting up better numbers than 1800 yards and 20 TDs next year. Not to mention, not a single WR received a vote in this year's Heisman voting. If guys like Moss and Fitzgerald couldn't win it at WR, I don't see anyone doing it.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 4:34 pm to lsufball19
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bingo. Don't see Chase putting up better numbers than 1800 yards and 20 TDs next year. Not to mention, not a single WR received a vote in this year's Heisman voting. If guys like Moss and Fitzgerald couldn't win it at WR, I don't see anyone doing it.
The only way a WR can win is if he also runs back kicks and punts and maybe also does jack of all trade stuff like running and/or wildcat.
It's just not gonna happen.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 4:39 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Couldn't imagine a wr better next season, but perhaps the oddsmakers don't think the qb will get him the ball enough.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 4:49 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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The only way a WR can win is if he also runs back kicks and punts and maybe also does jack of all trade stuff like running and/or wildcat.
It's just not gonna happen.
I think maybe Odell may have had a chance had LSU not lost 3 games in 2013. Had over 1000 yards receiving and return yards, but he didn't even come close. I just don't think it's possible. If a WR puts up worthy numbers, his QB will get more attention, just how it seemingly works. If he's also running the wildcat, he likely wouldn't have the receiving yards.
Randy Moss had arguably the most ridiculous season all-time for a college receiver and he finished 4th.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 4:52 pm to lsufball19
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Randy Moss had arguably the most ridiculous season all-time for a college receiver and he finished 4th.
Yep - and certainly no receiver from a mid-major is going to win, even a guy like Moss who everyone knew was a generational talent (an actual one, not the "generational talent" type people like to throw around to everyone these days
).
Posted on 1/27/20 at 4:57 pm to diddlydawg7
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T-4. Jamie Newman/Georgia (14-1)
Posted on 1/27/20 at 5:30 pm to Hobnailboot
Into barely legal boys? Pervert
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