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Week 5 Power Ratings and SEC predictions

Posted on 9/27/26 at 10:53 am
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
350 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 10:53 am
This is not a ranking, though many of you will not understand that. This is simply a measure of who would be favored over who on a neutral field - that's it. It doesn't consider merit or who deserves what.

An example for the tards: Notre Dame (28.2) would be a 6 point favorite over Florida (22.2) on a neutral field, because 28.2 - 22.2 = 6.



Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
36256 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 11:07 am to
Western Michigan beating Penn State is going have a pretty significant boost to Notre Dame's numbers... for now, at least. If Penn State tanks then the win won't be as impressive.
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
350 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 11:19 am to
quote:

Western Michigan beating Penn State

Either you meant Wisconsin, or the joke went over my head.

But yes, you are correct - that is how the model works.
Posted by bigbopper
Houston
Member since Jul 2015
1235 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 11:48 am to
I do not envision Notre Dame being a neutral field favorite against Georgia, Texas, Ohio State, Bama, Florida, Oregon, or LSU.
Posted by Sid E Walker
BackdoorU ©
Member since Nov 2013
26048 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 11:49 am to
Eight teams from 2-10 would easily beat ND. I’d say that ND vs. Utah would be a toss up.
Posted by MachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
9649 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 11:50 am to
quote:

I do not envision Notre Dame being a neutral field favorite against Georgia, Texas, Ohio State, Bama, Florida, Oregon, or LSU.


Let them. Easy $$ imo

EDIT: remove Oregon. They are terrible
This post was edited on 9/27/26 at 11:51 am
Posted by wesfau
Member since Mar 2023
3011 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 12:20 pm to
Oregon didn't really skip a beat when Raiola went in. Not garbage.
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
7180 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:09 pm to
What is the source?
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22234 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:13 pm to
what is this nonsense based on?
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
350 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

what is this nonsense based on?

Bayesian ridge regression with a Kalman filter.

It's only goal is to predict the spread first, then the total. Football scores are extremely noisy, which is why they are hard to predict. When Vegas releases their spreads, they're based on a similar model to mine. Then Vegas lets the market take over to push or pull the spread.

My model (over a season) hits and misses at pretty much the same clip as Vegas.
This post was edited on 9/27/26 at 3:09 pm
Posted by GreenieTiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
995 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 3:11 pm to
Northwestern making these list means your entire system is broken. No need to explain to us "tards".
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
53708 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 3:17 pm to
Can you post your ratings from last year at the end of the regular season?
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13878 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

This is simply a measure of who would be favored over who on a neutral field - that's it. It doesn't consider merit or who deserves what.


Based on what? You have to be applying some kind of data weighting and analysis, or is this just your feels?
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
350 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

Northwestern making these list means your entire system is broken. No need to explain to us "tards".

Most teams have only played 1, maybe two good teams. And if they do good against those good teams, the model is going to be high on them - simply because of the lack of data. Northwestern blew out Colorado and almost beat Indiana. The model's ratings change week to week as it gathers more data.

But, yes, you are a tard and I don't expect you to understand how any of this works.
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
350 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

Can you post your ratings from last year at the end of the regular season?

I don't keep weekly snapshots of ratings. I have the ratings from the day after the national championship last season.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
53708 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 3:29 pm to
Interesting
Posted by GreenieTiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
995 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 4:15 pm to
I understand how your model works secRant genius. I am telling you that your MilkJug model is a piece of shite.
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
350 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 4:16 pm to
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Based on what? You have to be applying some kind of data weighting and analysis, or is this just your feels?

I'm not weighting anything by hand.

Every FBS (games against FCS opponents are ignored) game this season goes into one big system of equations. The unknowns are each team's offense and defense rating, plus league-average scoring and home-field advantage:

Home score = league avg + home offense - away defense + home advantage (~3)
Away score = league avg + away offense - home defense

Ridge regression solves all of it at once. A team's rating is fit against the specific opponents that team played. What the model is "trying" to do is achieve the lowest MAE (Mean Absolute Error) possible - which is the whole point of the model - the outcome is the ratings/score predictions.

A Kalman filter then updates the ratings week to week, so a blowout 4 weeks ago counts for less than the most recent game a team played - the reason for this is that teams get better (and some worse) throughout the season. It's about a 5% decay each week. But this isn't intuitively "weighted", that "5%" is not a number I chose. The Kalman filter adjusts this decay itself accordingly to reach it's lowest MAE possible.

How does it know it's current MAE? It tests itself against previous games.

So it's not a bunch of dials that I decided matters. It's literally all just Math - and admittedly, football is more than just Math - there are a lot of unknowns and noise that effect the outcomes of games - which is why we like it so much.
This post was edited on 9/27/26 at 4:20 pm
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
350 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

I understand how your model works

You don't
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