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Was Les Miles the main reason behind LSU's offensive struggles?
Posted on 1/13/11 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 1/13/11 at 7:22 pm
Crowton's comments in The Advocate seem to indicate that Miles didn't allow him to run the wide open, aggressive offense like he wanted to.
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"I did I accept the job. I met with Coach Miles this morning. I talked over with Maren (his wife) and my family last night. This was a very hard decisison becuase there are such wonderful things at LSU."
"Coach Edsall offered me a three-year deal for $500,000 a year very, so it's a very good package. He wants me to install the same offense I ran at Boston College when we were there together (1991-93),at Louisiana Tech and at BYU. It's more of a wide-open style and that's very inviting to me."
"Coach Miles gave me his blessing. We talked about the great things we've accomplished here together, I thanked him for giving me the opp ortunity and we spent some time reminiscing. Then he stood up, gave me a big hug and I hugged him back."
"I never felt any pressure to leave. I always wanted to get better on offense. I think we took strides this season. The style we played wasn't wide-open, but I felt like it was what we needed to run here. I never felt any pressure that (Miles) was not gonna retain me."
"I always felt like we were on the same page. He was the head coach and I worked for him. The direction he wanted to go on offense, I was appreciative of that, and and I saw what he wanted to accomplish. I also saw it was working. I know we didn’t put up big numbers all the time, but the most important thing is winning and we won a lot of games. His formula is what I always tried to follow."
Edit: (Another quote by Crowton at nola.com) "I just felt he (Edsall) was a good friend. Randy is a defensive coach by trade and wanted me to come in and install the whole offense, my terminology and everything, and do it the way I've done it in the past in some other places. "
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Posted on 1/13/11 at 7:26 pm to Bench McElroy
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He wants me to install the same offense I ran at Boston College when we were there together (1991-93),at Louisiana Tech and at BYU. It's more of a wide-open style and that's very inviting to me."
We didn't have the quarterback for this. Les understood that. Gary did not. It lead to a lot of communication problems between the two and in my opinion was the large reason for our awkward rhythm on offense and some of our time management struggles over the past two seasons.
Posted on 1/13/11 at 7:27 pm to Bench McElroy
Oline was terrible in 2009. QB play was terrible in 2010. who the blame falls on for those two things is a different debate. but to me, it's more about that than a scheme thing. when our qb play was solid for a few games at the end of the year, those same plays suddenly started to work and the offense looked much better. crowton catches more heat for his inability to develop a qb than his offense as a whole.
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:02 pm to Bench McElroy
All you have to do is look at the statistical decline of all his offenses. It is not a coincidence. Gary Crowton is the problem.
This post was edited on 1/13/11 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:04 pm to GWfool
Or maybe we just gave the wrong guy the axe and the other guy a 7 year extension. Just playing devil's advocate here.
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:09 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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Or maybe we just gave the wrong guy the axe and the other guy a 7 year extension. Just playing devil's advocate here.
Les is a monster recruiter. In the SEC that's about 3/4s of the battle. I don't care if he doesn't know dick about running and offense all he has to do is find someone who does. Obviously Gary Crowton wasn't that person or he'd still be here.
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:10 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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Or maybe we just gave the wrong guy the axe and the other guy a 7 year extension. Just playing devil's advocate here.
The head coach often can dictate what offense the OC is allowed to run and what plays within the offense.
Houston Nutt is a classic example of doing this.
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:11 pm to GWfool
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All you have to do is look at the statistical decline of all his offenses. It is not a coincidence. Gary Crowton is the problem.
When GC was hired, the Oregon fans (who we hired GC away from) all came here to the rant and told us exactly how things would go down with GC.
They were prophetic.
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:12 pm to Bench McElroy
Honestly, I think a lot of that is selling Maryland on Crowton despite the poor offensive showing at LSU the past few years. "That wasn't really my offense" kind of thing. But I do think Miles is more of a pound the ball until they stop it guy, so yeah, he reigned Crowton in. But not enough, if you ask me. Way too many sideline to sideline plays. The defenses in the SEC are too fast for that.
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:14 pm to DaleDenton
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Or maybe we just gave the wrong guy the axe and the other guy a 7 year extension. Just playing devil's advocate here.
The head coach often can dictate what offense the OC is allowed to run and what plays within the offense.
Houston Nutt is a classic example of doing this.
He has followed the same trend at all his previous coaching jobs, the stats show the trend and the one common factor is always Gary Crowton.
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:19 pm to JudgeBoyett
Not only did he not have the QB, but HIS answer to our QB woes was.......Hatch? WTF was that?
Maybe Crowton was not as big a failure as LSU fans believe, but he did need to go.
Maybe Crowton was not as big a failure as LSU fans believe, but he did need to go.
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:27 pm to Bench McElroy
We're going to find out the truth about who was at fault.
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:27 pm to Bench McElroy
to answer your question succinctly, no. miles straightened things out considerably toward the end of the season. crowton enjoys square pegs and round holes.
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