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re: Was just comparing Jayden Daniels' stats with Manziel in 2012

Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:03 pm to
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
86831 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:03 pm to
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because their teams have better defenses,


Do they though? The PAC 12 is defense optional every year
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 9:04 pm
Posted by MetryMauler
Member since Sep 2016
7132 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:04 pm to
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Yeah, they might have re-ranked, but he was off the radar bc he never played football until his junior year in High School. He was a basketball guy up until then. Crazy how he was so good in college.


Right, maybe as a recruit. But the notion that Manziel had no help is silly. He was throwing to a NFL Hall-of-Famer.
Posted by 1loyalbamafan
alabama
Member since Mar 2015
3346 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:05 pm to
It was not Jonny Manziel that made their team but their Offensive Line. He got the credit but that O'line was great.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
39539 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:06 pm to
Johnny played much tougher teams back then. Like not even comparable talent wise the defenses he faced
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61076 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:07 pm to
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Johnny was also 19, a 3 star, on a team of 3 stars.


The only 10 win season Texas A&M has since 1998.

Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34015 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:14 pm to
Jayden’s evolution has been incredible and one reason I think some may be overboard about him is because he was pretty one dimensional last year and plenty of folks didn’t like him but he had some insanely focused off season and put it all together. So it’s been a journey.
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
14366 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:14 pm to
If only we could have been a 3 loss SEC West Champ with some sad story of why it was super special lmao
Posted by Boneappleteeth
Member since Nov 2023
288 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:01 pm to
What do you mean?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
121176 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:05 pm to
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SEC West Champ
I will take phrases that will never be associated with Texas A&M for $500.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
61210 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:08 pm to
I understand you’re trolling, but perhaps you could post their respective numbers and let the rest of us compare them for ourselves instead of taking your “objective” word for it.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
7859 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:08 pm to
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especially with Penix having basically no run game.


This simply isn’t true. If you take away Daniels rushing yards, Washington has more yards on the ground than LSU.
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 10:16 pm
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
14366 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:10 pm to
Johnny didn’t get 5 years of football to make it happen. His support cast was all low ranked guys that were developed. You guys can say all day you prefer JD, it really I don’t know why you guys keep making JD vs Johnny threads(l know OP is an Ag, but lsu fans started this topic). This is the 4th one this week.

This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 10:12 pm
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
61210 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:16 pm to
Nevermind, I just looked them up. No wonder you didn’t post them.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34015 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:19 pm to
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Johnny didn’t get 5 years of football to make it happen. His support cast was all low ranked guys that were developed. You guys can say all day you prefer JD, it really I don’t know why you guys keep making JD vs Johnny threads(

Okay okay. You’ve got a point on a head to head. Not saying there’s no counterpoints, there are. But you have a point.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34015 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:20 pm to
JayAg: “Is this a trap?”
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45039 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:20 pm to
I mean Daniels is basically the whole run game.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
7859 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:24 pm to
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I mean Daniels is basically the whole run game.


LSU has really solid RBs. But Daniels is just a freak show running the ball and throwing so they just don't get a ton of carries. The point simply is that Washington has more yardage from running backs than LSU does, so this Penix doesn't have a running game is nonsense.
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 10:26 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61076 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:29 pm to
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I mean Daniels is basically the whole run game.


Objectively false.

Daniels is only just over a third of LSU's rushing yardage on the year.
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 10:33 pm
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
7859 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:36 pm to
Daniels has accounted for 918 yards out of LSU's 2239 rushing yards. Which means LSU has averaged 132 yards per game from their other runners.
Posted by AggieBoy86
H-Town
Member since Oct 2012
506 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:39 pm to
JD has improved his passing game every year and is the total package this year. Honestly, he should win the Heisman but we know the fickle parameters behind the award result in disputed winners some years. Great player who I never thought would have a shot playing in the NFL the 1st time I saw him play in college. Major transformation over the last few years. Has the tools to succeed at next level. Gain some good weight and remember to slide at the next level. Good luck to him.
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