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Walter Payton and Jerry Rice - why didn't they go to Ole Miss or Miss St?

Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:30 pm
Posted by WaterLink
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:30 pm
Especially Rice, dude was literally from Starkville. Yet both these guys went to FCS schools in the state instead. I know recruiting wasn't exactly what it is now and Payton was in band and Rice got into football late. But it's still got to sting knowing you had these talents right in your backyard and didn't get them. We can add Favre and McNair to this list too
This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 8:37 pm
Posted by Kneehigh
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:32 pm to
Racism IMO


















J/K





But what most liberals will say in this thread
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:32 pm to
The gap between Mississippi State and OM and FCS schools was much smaller back then.

It’s also not uncommon for less known programs to produce high quality NFL talenr.
Posted by NATidefan
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:33 pm to
Brett Favre was always interesting to me.

Southern Miss wanted him to be a DB... but he said frick all that.
This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 8:44 pm
Posted by WinnaSez
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:33 pm to
Ummm, scholastic grades.
Posted by WaterLink
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:38 pm to
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Farve


Posted by Solo Cam
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:39 pm to
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Brett Farve was always interesting to me.

Southern Miss wanted him to be a DB... but he said frick all that.


Not accurate. He was a wing T QB and he received a scholarship because they thought he could be a DB.

Then someone saw him throw. Now he’s one of the greatest ever
Posted by NATidefan
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:43 pm to
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After high school, Southern Mississippi offered Favre a football scholarship at the urging of assistant coach McHale, which was the only one he received.[9] Southern Miss wanted him to play defensive back, but Favre wanted to play quarterback instead. Favre began his freshman year as the seventh-string quarterback and took over the starting position in the second half of the third game of the year against Tulane on September 19, 1987.
Posted by NATidefan
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:44 pm to
Fixed it.
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:44 pm to
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Not accurate. He was a wing T QB and he received a scholarship because they thought he could be a DB.

Then someone saw him throw. Now he’s one of the greatest ever


Steve McNair was the one that was recruited to be a DB. At many schools. Alcorn said they'd let him be a QB so I can understand how that came about and it's not that uncommon.

ETA: I stand corrected, apparently they did want Favre as a DB.

This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 8:47 pm
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:45 pm to
I think Brett was ahead of his time in that he is really the prototype gunslinger and that’s been popularized in the NFL (outside of the running QB).

That’s why Tua struggled a lot this year because he wasn’t slinging it down field and when he did it was either dropped or not on target.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:48 pm to
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Racism IMO

J/K


I mean this hurt Ole Miss in recruiting until relatively recently. Most reasonable OM fans will tell you that themselves.

Seems like your shitty attempt at a joke just made you look like a dumb.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:51 pm to
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Especial Rice, dude was literally from Starkville. Yet both these guys went to FCS schools in the state instead. I know recruiting wasn't exactly what it is now and Payton was in band and Rice got into football late. But it's still got to sting knowing you had these talents right in your backyard and didn't get them. We can add Favre and McNair to this list too




Grambling and many small southern black colleges had enough NFL players on them to start their own HOF. White folks in the SEC couldn't figure it out until the 70s. No one has bragging rights on this one.

Unless you lived through Jim Crow in the deep south and had to get off the sidewalk cause a white person was coming and needed all the space, you have no idea what a black person of that generation felt about his social status or the choices he made.

That sure was entertaining, next time, let's discuss why Hank Aaron, Willie McCovey, Willie Mays, Satchel Paige, Billy Williams never went to Alabama of the Barn. And what's that thing they were calling the Negro League?
Posted by BamaIsGoat
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:59 pm to
Of course the thread turns into that garbage
Posted by WaterLink
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 9:00 pm to
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That sure was entertaining, next time, let's discuss why Hank Aaron, Willie McCovey, Willie Mays, Satchel Paige, Billy Williams never went to Alabama of the Barn. And what's that thing they were calling the Negro League?


All those dudes you listed when they were college age were in the 50s as the latest, some in the 40s. Much different than the late 70s and 80s, dontcha think?
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 9:03 pm to
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Much different than the late 70s and 80s, dontcha think?


Every decade is much different than the last.

You need to study American history more if you think the south was an okay place to be for non-whites in the 70s and 80s.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36066 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 9:03 pm to
Rice played college from 81 to 84. Bama had their first black QB by then.

I dont think his race was the issue with him going to a more mainstream university.
Posted by roadkill
East Coast, FL
Member since Oct 2008
1842 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 9:04 pm to
How about John Stallworth - from Tuscaloosa? Played at Alabama A&M....a bigger version of Devonta Smith.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 9:04 pm to
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Of course the thread turns into that garbage




Read the narrative of Walter Peyton's life? He deeply understood and felt segregation and it had to do with his choice of school. No one does anything without a motive. This is the deep south and sports history ain't much to brag about, among other things associated with that time.
Posted by BamaIsGoat
Member since Jan 2021
291 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 9:07 pm to
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