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re: Wade and Miller wiretaps ruled "irrelevant" in federal trial.

Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:07 pm to
Wade got rid of the really incompetent AD
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64474 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:08 pm to
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So, you haven't proved me wrong on any legal issue.


I said "y'all" as in the collective secrant.
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Drop what? I merely laughed at the idiot talking about chain of custody issues.


well, you shouldn't have because you're wrong
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The NCAA will still investigate and there is potential they can get the same information from other sources.


how do you figure they'll get the wiretaps from other sources? they're sealed by the FBI and cannot be unsealed absent consent from Will Wade or them being part of the court's record, neither of which will happen
Posted by Jmill88
St. Louis
Member since Feb 2016
1088 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:09 pm to
Good luck getting the same caliber of players without paying them.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73466 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:10 pm to
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Only if you've got a good arse offer, baw.


Hows 'bout a Dodge Charger, baw?
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:10 pm to
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well, you shouldn't have because you're wrong
No I'm not.

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how do you figure they'll get the wiretaps from other sources?
they don't need the wiretaps, just evidence of the content of the conversations. I doubt they get it, but they can get it from interviews with witnesses.
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 12:12 pm
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35929 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:10 pm to
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lsufball19
vs the uninformed SEC Rantards

Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64474 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:14 pm to
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No I'm not.

yes, you are
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they don't need the wiretaps, just evidence of the content of the conversations

how do you figure they get that information?
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but they can get it from interviews with witnesses.

like who? Will Wade
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64474 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:15 pm to
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Good luck getting the same caliber of players without paying them.



Who says LSU is going to stop paying players? You think UNC is playing things close to the vest now?
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
24954 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:17 pm to
Log off, dude. You just keep digging in and you have no idea what you're talking about.

Pray for brains over this holy weekend.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:18 pm to
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Not to mention, the NCAA can easily question the other parties involved in the calls to obtain similar evidence and isn't solely reliant on having the wiretaps.


Correct.

They certainly could turn up some real evidence via questioning and if they get somebody to talk or produce receipts or both.

But if nobody talks and nobody produces any real evidence outside of the wiretap and Yahoo story, then they've got nothing. The Yahoo report is all they needed to *start* an investigation but it will go nowhere without real evidence.

And right now, as far as we know, they've got nothing.

Just like they could never prove anything with Cam other than Cecil put out the collection plate.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35929 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:18 pm to
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but they can get it from interviews with witnesses.
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like who? Will Wade


"TELL US WHAT YOU HEARD DAMN IT!!!"
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 12:19 pm
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:19 pm to
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Who says LSU is going to stop paying players? You think UNC is playing things close to the vest now?


Exactly. There is WAY too much money being made in college football and basketball to think any of this is going away any time soon. The incentive to cheat has never been greater.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64474 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:20 pm to
Yep, with as many people who do it and get away with it...doesn't exactly send the message that people should stop for fear of getting in trouble. Time and time again the NCAA has showed what a joke of an organization they are.
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 12:22 pm
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73466 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:22 pm to
Pearljam is the dude in the white shirt that keeps missing and biting the dust.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123588 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:22 pm to
Sec rant has been getting owned by everything LSU related lately

LOL
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18962 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:24 pm to
Oh they mad
Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5681 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:24 pm to
The NCAA is not a court of law. It's a team of investigators and then a committee.

You're confusing a court of law and the NCAA.
Standards are different. There is no "beyond a reasonable doubt."
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93643 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:27 pm to
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Good luck getting the same caliber of players without paying them.

A lot of people keep saying this. What makes anyone think that Wade has to stop paying players? As of today he hasn't been caught paying anyone. There's a report that he was caught discussing something that sounds like paying a player. There's a really, really big difference.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:30 pm to
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like who? Will Wade
Was he not talking to other people on the phone?

Consider this...I don't think it likely, but it is possible... What if defense counsel leaked the actual wiretaps or transcripts of the actual wiretaps to the media and the media published them in full. Do you think the NCAA would be precluded in some way from using that published wiretap or transcript in it's hearing regarding Will Wade?

Do you think someone could successfully sue the NCAA due to a chain of custody issue?

The point is, the NCAA isn't bound by the rules of evidence in it's hearings. Chain of custody related to the wiretaps wouldn't be an issue that would prevent the NCAA from considering the evidence if it chose to. If you think otherwise, you are wrong.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:31 pm to
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Correct.

They certainly could turn up some real evidence via questioning and if they get somebody to talk or produce receipts or both.

But if nobody talks and nobody produces any real evidence outside of the wiretap and Yahoo story, then they've got nothing. The Yahoo report is all they needed to *start* an investigation but it will go nowhere without real evidence
Totally agree. I haven't suggested otherwise.
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