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re: Wade and Miller wiretaps ruled "irrelevant" in federal trial.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:16 pm to LouisvilleKat
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:16 pm to LouisvilleKat
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They already accepted evidence against Louisville in the Brian Bowen case from the Feds so whatever happens from here on out I'm good.
yes, they accepted evidence that was admitted at trial in October, being made part of the public record.
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Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:19 pm to lsufball19
quote:If they got the evidence from media publishing it (per the scenario I posted) that is legally obtaining the evidence.
receiving illegally leaked evidence is not legally obtaining evidence.
quote:No it isn't.
That's akin to saying there's nothing legally wrong with receiving stolen property because you aren't the one who stole it.
quote:Potentially, but it wouldn't have anything to do with a chain of custody basis. However, the wiretaps would be relevant evidence in that case.
I'm saying if the NCAA uses illegally obtained evidence in their own hearings and use that evidence to issue a show cause against Wade, effectively costing him millions in current and future wages, then they would absolutely have grounds for a lawsuit.
quote:it doesn't appear so
Let's be frank, the NCAA is not going to get those wiretaps
quote:it's possible, but unlikely.
they're not going to get any testimony from the people involved in said wiretaps
Again, if you read my posts, I haven't said anything to the contrary. I simply laughed at the poster throwing around the chain of custody jargon as of he had a clue what he was talking about.
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:24 pm to PearlJam
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PearlJam
my man, you can choose to believe whatever you want to believe. It ain't gonna happen. The NCAA is not going to risk any potential liability. The media has already published things. And you know why they always say it was obtained from "an anonymous source"? Because they don't want to get sued and the person(s) providing said information to the media don't want to find themselves in hot water either so they don't allow the media to attach their names to the information. This is exactly why a protective order was put into place, because the judge knew defense counsel was leaking information and wanted it to stop. The NCAA would never let themselves be exposed to that sort of thing. It just wouldn't be worth it.
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 4/19/19 at 2:18 pm to FightingTigers138
NCAA coming to Baton Rouge
Posted on 4/19/19 at 2:30 pm to secuniversity
Without those tapes, all they have are a reports anonymous leaking of an alleged transcript. I think the NCAA rules prevent them from using anonymous sources.
Wade, Smart and Smart's family have already interviewed with the NCAA, and he's still around. Only other person in the equation is the handler, and he has either interviewed or told the NCAA to pound sand (they can't make him interview). Where is the evidence of wrongdoing going to come from?
Wade, Smart and Smart's family have already interviewed with the NCAA, and he's still around. Only other person in the equation is the handler, and he has either interviewed or told the NCAA to pound sand (they can't make him interview). Where is the evidence of wrongdoing going to come from?
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 4/19/19 at 2:32 pm to PearlJam
NCAA, by its own rules, cannot use anonymous sources in its investigations. Since the Yahoo articles are based on anonymous source leaks of transcripts (that the NCAA cannot verify), it seems that Pat Forde's articles mean absolutely nothing. So regardless of whether the leaks were illegal, which they likely were, NCAA can't use them.
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 4/19/19 at 3:08 pm to FightingTigers138
Feds are fricking over Dawkins. Bigly.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 3:09 pm to ellessuuuu
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it seems that Pat Forde's articles mean absolutely nothing. So regardless of whether the leaks were illegal, which they likely were, NCAA can't use them.
Except to trigger an investigation.
Which I would guess Wade assured LSU he would fully cooperate with in order to be reinstated. Unless LSU wants to cheat.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 3:12 pm to secuniversity
You dumb.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 3:13 pm to FightingTigers138
What a joke.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 3:15 pm to ellessuuuu
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Wade, Smart and Smart's family have already interviewed with the NCAA, and he's still around.
Do you think an NCAA investigation consists of “Did you cheat?” “Nope!” “Okey dokey!”
Because it doesn’t.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 3:22 pm to the808bass
quote:Worked for North Carolina... well except they just admitted you cant punish us because everybody here cheated.
Do you think an NCAA investigation consists of “Did you cheat?” “Nope!” “Okey dokey!”
Because it doesn’t.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 3:26 pm to LouisvilleKat
Well, North Carolina said that their university was fine with people taking no show classes. Why that hasn’t killed their accreditation is a separate and interesting question. Such an avenue is not open to LSU in this instance.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 3:36 pm to the808bass
You’ve trolled, calling us idiots for so many weeks now. I think even directly to me once when I said this would be thrown out, same as last wiretap.
I’m enjoying this, a lot. Happy Friday, 808.
I’m enjoying this, a lot. Happy Friday, 808.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 3:47 pm to cas4t
He's such a pseudo-intellectual. I'll enjoy watching him crawfish
Posted on 4/19/19 at 3:54 pm to lsufball19
He’s a sanctimonious little prick who gets his jollies off by using his latest word of the day on an SEC sports message board. It’s hysterical.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 3:59 pm to FightingTigers138
Crap I wanted to see aggy melt over buzz.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 4:26 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:Quite simple, actually. You can see it if you look at the situation objectively.quote:
If you think that the NCAA is going to punish LSU with no evidence, then you are stupid.
Why do you think it's impossible for the NCAA to dig up new evidence once they begin their investigation of LSU?
Yahoo story came out, LSU/Alleva panicked and suspended Wade.
LSU then sat Javonte Smart 1 game (about a week's worth of checking), and looked at everything they could to see if he should be ineligible.
Somebody leaked the name of the middleman involved with Smart.
LSU then cleared Smart, which meant that they couldn't find anything.
The middleman, as per his right, said "I know the family, and have nothing else to say about anything".
You then go about a month with LSU with an interim coach, and everyone here trolling LSU fans with "loss of institutional control" sanctions inbound. Y'all are trolling, but I guarantee the LSU admins were legit concerned about that, and looked into whatever they could to find out what might be coming down the road.
You come to this week, where we see what LSU has found (indirectly, by their actions):
1) Wade is reinstated
2) Alleva is let go
That tells me LSU could find NOTHING of any concern, and that Alleva caused more problems and suspicion by the suspension.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 4:28 pm to Scoob
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and looked at everything they could to see if he should be ineligible.
lol
Posted on 4/19/19 at 4:29 pm to cas4t
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You’ve trolled, calling us idiots for so many weeks now. I think even directly to me once when I said this would be thrown out, same as last wiretap.
Most of you are idiots. If you think this is the end of the investigation, you’re the biggest idiot on the board.
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