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re: Vegas releases Heisman trophy odds for 2017

Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:09 pm to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

Can you have a poor man's version of a meth head?


I always thought cocaine was Johnny's problem, not meth. But I'm not that familiar with meth heads.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15294 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

If Baker wins at Ohio State


Baker plays at OU. Barrett only looked good against shite teams. He seems to play like a slightly less talented Jalen, with a ton of more experience.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:14 pm to
I know Oregon's Justin Herbert is going to put up some unreal numbers. I might just put some money on a long shot.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
24458 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:18 pm to
Is an LSU or Auburn player favored? No? The award doesn't matter
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91642 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:18 pm to
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Barrett only looked good against shite teams. He seems to play like a slightly less talented Jalen
You should revisit JT Barrett's freshman season.
Posted by Pride of Georgia
Wadley, GA
Member since Sep 2016
662 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:11 pm to
Won't be anyone on this list
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68475 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:12 pm to
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14) Nick Fitzgerald, QB, Mississippi State
quote:

T-15) Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia
uh.... no
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54044 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:49 pm to
2017 Guice should be pretty special.

:bartscottgif:
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19672 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:18 pm to
I think darnold gets it. That guy is good
Posted by Triple Daves
ITP
Member since Sep 2016
5740 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:19 pm to
I mean - I dunno if Hurts is going to improve or not, but if he improves just a little bit.......this really isn't that crazy.

1,000 yards rushing and 12 TDs, 3,000 yards passing, 25 TD/8 INTs.......

Our offense will be good, he'll have a stable of great backs, still have Ridley, etc. He could perhaps make a lot of easy throws and even quick stuff like this year, and his numbers will be pretty good (like this year).

Anyway, who knows. He's not as good a QB as a lot of those guys, but his numbers this year were pretty good and if he improves they'll be better next year.

This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 9:20 pm
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38217 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

J.T. Barrett, QB, Ohio State


This dude has been at Ohio State for a decade it seems
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
21950 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:25 pm to
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uh.... no


someone mad Sheazus isn't on there.
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 10:26 pm to
Jt Barrett is overrated

Extremely
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 8:22 am
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:29 pm to
The only way Hurts wins is if we play Tennessee at least 3 times.

The extra 1000 rushing yards and 12 TDs would put him over the top.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:24 am to
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Baker plays at OU.


Oklahoma and Ohio State play eachother...
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
6847 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:33 am to
If USC improves this year it's the Darnold kid's. ESPN led by Herbstreet will be pimping the Hell out of J.T Barrett. Mayfield will put up gaudy numbers in the defenseless Big 12, but don't sleep on Guice. However, just like Fournette the only thing they will look at is performance in the first Saturday in November. (Streaks don't last forever Gumps! unless your Kentucky playing UF)
Posted by MasterAbe1
Member since Oct 2016
4995 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:45 am to
I would take Baker overJohnny all day.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 12:57 pm to
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We wouldn't have made it to the title game without him at QB. He had arguably the GOAT true freshman season for a QB, not really sure why people are lol'ing at him being on there


Bama would have the same exact record if Stewart lined up at QB for Bama. Hurts did really well until he faced good defenses who realized he literally can't make the intermediate throws with accuracy.

You end up with bubble screen right, bubble screen left, dump to the RB safety valve, throw deep, or QB scramble. More similar to a triple option than an actual passing attack

Eddie Jackson did more for the Bama offense than Hurts did IMO
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 1:00 pm
Posted by Hailstate8
Member since Aug 2014
282 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:38 pm to
Fitz isn't good enough as a passer to win it. But he put up great numbers at the end of the season. Although he did get to play Ole miss's FCS defense so they're slightly skewed.
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11651 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 5:34 pm to
Johnny Manziel is a poor man's Johnny Manziel
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