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re: UofSC NCAA sanctions
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:20 pm to Smokeyone
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:20 pm to Smokeyone
just imagine what UofTK vols football will get for all those McDonald's bags of cash to kids - if this is what USC 'received' because a lone coach took a bribe to line his own pockets. no money went to a player.
none of the lone coach's actions gave an advantage to the USC program or any of the players.
scary times ahead for UofTK fans no doubt.
none of the lone coach's actions gave an advantage to the USC program or any of the players.
scary times ahead for UofTK fans no doubt.
quote:you forgot the word 'former'quote:
Assistant coach given 10!year show cause.
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 7:23 pm
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Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:24 pm to Irons Puppet
They have the option to leave the NCAA....it's an organization that has rules. If schools don't like the rules they can get out. Coaches also have the same options.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:54 pm to Smokeyone
You pay them so little they are accepting bribes? How is that possible? 
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:59 pm to Smokeyone
Key word was Big , we're not a big program. We're literally a pile of shite. This is like making a pile of shite stink after the sun has dried it out.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:24 pm to jumpstart
Not sure the courts would see it that way. Anything that prevents a law abiding citizen from pursuing his chosen career is usually shot down. You never read about a female coach with a show cause tag. I wonder why?
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:27 pm to geauxbrown
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Watching Tuscaloosa squirm over this has been a solid reason for returning to the SECR weekly.
There’s not even a little squirm. Excited anticipation, for sure though.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:28 pm to Irons Puppet
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Not sure the courts would see it that way.
First thing I’ve ever agreed with your dumb arse on.
The excuse that the NCAA is some at-will organization is not legally sound. It’s comprised of nearly every major public university and allows negotiation and dictations of rules in a way that bypasses typical organization structures of public institutions.
The university AD’s join because it benefits them financially, not because it’s the right thing to do.
Edit: I disagree with your original point that a coach will do them in. The him-hawing over players getting paid “for their likeness” will do the NCAA in.
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:29 pm to TigerLunatik
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The NCAA was accusing him of it or a reporter talked to 11 players that say he offered them money to play for LSU?
Whatever “documents” that were released...
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The Advocate reported in August documents that revealed LSU's infractions case was headed toward the IARP, and indications are that an ultimate resolution could take 6-12 months to complete...
According to the documents, the NCAA's enforcement staff said it received information that Wade arranged for, offered or provided impermissible payments, including cash payments, to at least 11 potential recruits or other associated people.
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Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:41 pm to Tuscaloosa
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the NCAA's enforcement staff said it received information that Wade arranged for, offered or provided impermissible payments, including cash payments, to at least 11 potential recruits or other associated people.
OK. So, it sounds like they're saying that they interviewed some people and those people said that these things happened.
The reason I asked for a specific clarification is because the NCAA has been after Wade for nearly four years now. He was hired in March of 2017 and an article came out shortly afterward that they were looking into his recruiting practices. If the NCAA hasn't given him any penalties by now then it looks like they haven't found any proof of payment yet and handed the case over to the independent committee.
Now that the case has been handed over to the IARP, maybe they find something concrete. IMO if they don't find any proof of payment the penalty would have to be less. Him and LSU both are getting something regardless though. Obviously if any kind of payment is proven, everyone is fricked for a long time. The NCAA wants Wade bad.
Eta: LINK to article from February 2018 that I was referencing
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:47 pm to Irons Puppet
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Anything that prevent a law abiding citizen from pursuing his chose career is usually shot down
They aren’t prohibited. There are numerous opportunities outside the NCAA. You’ve got NBA, G-league, NAIA, etc. Further, a show cause doesn’t mean they can’t be hired by an NCAA school. It just means the school hiring them will face sanctions like the program they were with when they got hit with the show cause.
Lawyers, doctors, CPAs, police officers, paramedics, nurses, etc all get barred from their chosen professions (often for life) every single day for violations of their professional standards even if those violations don’t rise to the level of a crime. Coaches who violate the code of ethics aren’t any different.
Female coaches get show causes too.
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The last one is a female former SEC coach that got a 6 year one. You don’t hear about them because as a general rule most fans don’t pay much attention to women’s sports at their own school so other programs in trouble don’t get noticed at all.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:55 pm to JustGetItRight
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Lawyers, doctors, CPAs, police officers, paramedics, nurses, etc all get barred from their chosen professions (often for life) every single day for violations of their professional standards even if those violations don’t rise to the level of a crime.
True, but those examples aren’t legally equivalent to the NCAA and its show causes. The NCAA isn’t revoking a license to practice. They have no legal jurisdiction to do so. They are leveraging penalties on employers for employing. That’s significantly different.
I don’t have a problem with show causes, but your argument didn’t refute his point.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 9:07 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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They are leveraging penalties on employers for employing. That’s significantly different.
In some cases, it is the same in other jobs. Take, for example, a police officer that has Giglio/Brady material in his file. He hasn’t had a professional license or certification revoked but is virtually unemployable as an officer.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 9:36 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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First thing I’ve ever agreed with your dumb arse on.
Then my view must be really fricked up. I need to delete my post so I do not get associated with your ignorant views.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 9:41 pm to JustGetItRight
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They aren’t prohibited. There are numerous opportunities outside the NCAA. You’ve got NBA, G-league, NAIA, etc. Further, a show cause doesn’t mean they can’t be hired by an NCAA school. It just means the school hiring them will face sanctions like the program they were with when they got hit with the show cause.
Lawyers, doctors, CPAs, police officers, paramedics, nurses, etc all get barred from their chosen professions (often for life) every single day for violations of their professional standards even if those violations don’t rise to the level of a crime. Coaches who violate the code of ethics aren’t any different.
Again, they get banned for an illegal activity or they take away their certification recognized by the law. Coaching doesn't have that type of certification and they are not required to have one to perform their jobs.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 5:18 am to Smokeyone
At least we have an excuse to suck the next couple of years. Just in time as we were running out of reasons.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 5:22 am to Smokeyone
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Assistant coach
Hasn't been our assistant coach in years.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 2:08 pm to SOSFAN
Since when does Carolina need an excuse. They suck! From the Gamecocks celebration of a cruel illegal “sport” to their piece of rusty crap football stadium to their long history of cheating coaches and unsuccessful seasons. They just plain suck!
Posted on 2/26/21 at 2:15 pm to TigerLunatik
It is interesting that Wade still signs 5 star guys even with the constant threat of sanctions and the NCAA tapped in to every communication line he has. If he did buy Javonte Smart, he didn’t need to.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 2:16 pm to SaturdayNAthens
Posted on 2/26/21 at 2:18 pm to CNB
What do I have to be mad about. This Dawg like the vast majority of our fan base is quite happy with our lot in life. I was just stating the obvious.
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 2:19 pm
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