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re: University of Alabama BOT to approve scope and budget for "Athletics Competition Arena"

Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
8973 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:07 pm to
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It is too bad when money is wasted.



there is only so much steak a football athlete can eat...eventually you run out of things to spend on them...
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:09 pm to
Taking land from the Medical School ?
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
8973 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:13 pm to
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Taking land from the Medical School ?


I think most of that stuff back there A&S stuff but I'm not sure.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72921 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:14 pm to
Is everything a damn argument for you? Always playing the contrarian?
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72921 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:15 pm to
The campus master plan has had a future athletic facility listed on that property since at least 2005.
This post was edited on 2/2/22 at 3:15 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:17 pm to
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Is everything a damn argument for you? Always playing the contrarian?



Serious questions. That has been the theme at UA for a long time. Why it was so important to get the Bryce Property.
Posted by csgau
On the dock of the Bay
Member since Jan 2014
623 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:18 pm to
updyke Board of trustees has nothing to say about it. They will do what the dead drunks, drunk son tells them to do. end of story.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72921 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:19 pm to
Why does any university want to expand and update?
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
11581 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:21 pm to
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Is everything a damn argument for you?

Always.
Posted by Bama Bird
Member since Dec 2011
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:22 pm to
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I heard they were going to build it in McCalla near the new Amazon warehouse and share it with UAB?



Where in the world did you hear this?
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:29 pm to
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Why does any university want to expand and update?



Nobody was saying anything about either. Man, some people only understand a university through the eyes of athletics. Space has been an issue with UA for 25+ years. Due to the City, river and the interstate restricting land. I am sure you view is only from a seat in the stadium, but these issues have been made clear to the taxpayers of Alabama.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
8973 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:34 pm to
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The campus master plan has had a future athletic facility listed on that property since at least 2005.



I think I circled one of the spots where they planned on putting it too. I've heard this scuttlebutt for awhile. Been a rumor ever since they bought Bryce but all they've done with it reuse buildings for non-academic related stuff (for the most part).
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
8973 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:37 pm to
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Nobody was saying anything about either. Man, some people only understand a university through the eyes of athletics. Space has been an issue with UA for 25+ years. Due to the City, river and the interstate restricting land. I am sure you view is only from a seat in the stadium, but these issues have been made clear to the taxpayers of Alabama.



UA doesn't have a space problem, they have a utilization problem. The Bryce campus is huge and mostly underutilized because several of the buildings are hazmat problems they don't want to touch, others have been considered historical and encumber development. In my opinion, nothing made of wood is historical but that's just me. If the people who made it didn't build it with something that will last a tornado or fire then it was never meant to be preserved. They should demo that old main building and put something with utility there.
Posted by RumHam
Huntsville
Member since Jun 2021
3969 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:42 pm to
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They should demo that old main building and put something with utility there.


Fine by me but I want no part of a basketball arena on Bryce property.
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
Member since May 2016
5955 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:42 pm to
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frankly I'm jealous of the place - I even saw a Wilder fight there

Was awesome. Though trying to get a beer that night was something else.
Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5757 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:46 pm to
Alabama will have the nicest 3-stadium combo...Football, Basketball and Baseball...in the country.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
8973 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:46 pm to
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Fine by me but I want no part of a basketball arena on Bryce property.



They wanted to build a best of breed fine arts campus in that area but it has been encumbered by the historical significance requirements that are daunting from an engineering perspective to actually renovate without the main Bryce building collapsing in the process.

That purchase increased the UA footprint significantly but it is largely underutilized. They built North Lawn Hall on the edge near the engineering campus. They host several institutes and research centers in old renovated buildings that aren't total hazmat boondoggles. I believe the NOAA Water Institute was built just on the edge of that property too.

Edit: There is a geriatric mental health related nursing home there...I'm not sure if that was something UA inherited or what but essentially mean dementia types.
This post was edited on 2/2/22 at 3:49 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105095 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:47 pm to
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UA doesn't have a space problem, they have a utilization problem. The Bryce campus is huge and mostly underutilized because several of the buildings are hazmat problems they don't want to touch, others have been considered historical and encumber development. In my opinion, nothing made of wood is historical but that's just me. If the people who made it didn't build it with something that will last a tornado or fire then it was never meant to be preserved. They should demo that old main building and put something with utility there.


One of the biggest issues are all the old barely marked/unmarked graves back behind the property between it and River Road. The work that would have to be done to excavate, mark, move, etc. is well beyond anything that anyone wants to deal with unless absolutely necessary.
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
11581 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:48 pm to
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nothing made of wood is historical

So the Eddins House, the oldest building in the state isn’t historical?
Posted by Snout Spout
Somewhere in the 17th century
Member since Jul 2015
976 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:49 pm to
Apparently the football program DOES need the money with the way A&M just raised the stakes in the recruiting arms race. Throw that money into NIL instead of a basketball arena. As much fun as it would be to dominate everything, I'd rather keep dominating the #1 sport, rather than risk losing it by spreading ourselves too thin.
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