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re: UGA Concerns going into season
Posted on 8/20/23 at 10:42 pm to meansonny
Posted on 8/20/23 at 10:42 pm to meansonny
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Yeah. Our defense sucks.
If he is putting up touchdowns against them, that probably doesn't mean much
It's wild that you're so big of a homer that you can't even admit that Beck is an absolute question mark right now.
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 10:47 pm to SidewalkTiger
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It's wild that you're so big of a homer that you can't even admit that Beck is an absolute question mark right now.
Answer your own question.
How many yards and TDs for Carson this year?
Posted on 8/20/23 at 11:30 pm to meansonny
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Answer your own question.
How many yards and TDs for Carson this year?
Really no way to make a fair prediction, he has literally never even started a game at the collegiate level.
If I was guessing, I'd say 2800 yards, 27 touchdowns.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 12:49 am to SidewalkTiger
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wild that you're so big of a homer that you can't even admit that Beck is an absolute question mark right now.
So how do we analyze the question?
1. Start with what he has done when he has played = very good.
2. Consider the supporting cast = Brock bowers. Ladd. Lovett. 4 NFL OL IN THE 2024 draft.
3. Consider the OC = Remember the UGA win over Lsu in 2008? In 2013? 2005? 2004? So many points.
Bobo did that with richt talent and development.
Now he has Kirby talent and development.
Do the math. What is the logical assumption?
A. Success. Yards. Points. Wins
Or
B. FAILURE. Sacks. INT. Punts.
“Same as it ever was”?
Or NOT?
This post was edited on 8/21/23 at 12:54 am
Posted on 8/21/23 at 7:52 am to SidewalkTiger
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If I was guessing, I'd say 2800 yards, 27 touchdowns.
Way too low on the yardage.
This post was edited on 8/21/23 at 7:55 am
Posted on 8/21/23 at 7:56 am to so_comfort
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If I was guessing, I'd say 2800 yards, 27 touchdowns
I’ll take the over on that
Posted on 8/21/23 at 8:00 am to theRealJesseD
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1. Start with what he has done when he has played = very good.
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I’ll take the over on that
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Way too low on the yardage.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 8:05 am to SidewalkTiger
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If I was guessing, I'd say 2800 yards, 27 touchdowns
I appreciate you putting numbers out there.
Most fans talk trash but are too chicken to put numbers behind it.
Why don't you finish the drill?
Predict numbers for Jayden Daniels.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 8:09 am to meansonny
If he stays healthy all year, I say about 3,200 yards and 25 touchdowns
Posted on 8/21/23 at 8:19 am to SidewalkTiger
Not sure why you think it's funny.
UGA is likely to play at least 14 games this season. 2800 yards is just 200 yards per game. That is a very low yardage number.
Texas A&M's combination of poor QB play averaged 220 yards per game through the air last season. That's 3,080 yards if Beck does that as the UGA starter.
UGA is likely to play at least 14 games this season. 2800 yards is just 200 yards per game. That is a very low yardage number.
Texas A&M's combination of poor QB play averaged 220 yards per game through the air last season. That's 3,080 yards if Beck does that as the UGA starter.
This post was edited on 8/21/23 at 8:23 am
Posted on 8/21/23 at 8:24 am to SidewalkTiger
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Really no way to make a fair prediction,
Sure there is.
First of all, just because a guy hasn't played with the game on the line doesn't mean he can't be competently evaluated. One can still assess his arm mechanics, his accuracy, his ball placement, his timing, his footwork, his ability to work his progressions, and his pocket movement. All of these characteristics put together help to support the assertion that he'll do well when it counts.
Second, he's already played against the best defense he will see all year. We,as fans, haven't seen it, but Kirby has, and his confidence in Beck comes from those evaluations. I'm comfortable taking Kirby's word on this.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 8:30 am to so_comfort
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If I was guessing, I'd say 2800 yards, 27 touchdowns.
Way too low on the yardage.
Eh Idk I think 2800 is probably a pretty damn fair guess to set the O/U considering it's a new starter that has never played a meaningful down of football yet. In the 21st century:
-David Greene averaged abotu ~2800 in a season
-Shock has 2600
-Stafford averaged about 2700ish
-Cox had 2600 his 1 year
-Murray averaged abotu 3300ish
-Mason had 2200
-Lamber had 1900 :/
-Eason + Fromm averaged abotu 2600 in that 4 year span
-Stet had 2800 his first year starting, then over 4K last year
Wiht a brand new QB and first year (sorta) OC, I don't think 2800 is a stretch at all. Especially with our defense and light schedule too...shoot I'd be inclined to take the under gun to my head
ETA: I guess I didn't really pay attention to the fact that that's 200 YPG assuming we win the east, which on the face of it does sound very low. So idk
This post was edited on 8/21/23 at 8:41 am
Posted on 8/21/23 at 8:31 am to DawginSC
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Not sure why you think it's funny.
UGA is likely to play at least 14 games this season. 2800 yards is just 200 yards per game. That is a very low yardage number.
I'm not saying it's impossible for him to be better, I'm simply saying I don't know.
He's a first time starter, those guys don't usually light it up their first season, especially as pocket passers.
And quarterbacks, historically, haven't put up huge numbers under Bobo, especially not first time starters.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 8:41 am to SidewalkTiger
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The main questions seem to be whether Carson Beck can perform as well as Stetson and whether Bobo can keep the offense humming along at the level that Monken had it at.
These are very generic questions that are easy talking points to throw out with little meat on them to analyze.
First let's look at the coach side of it. The fact is the OC who has the record for the most points per game scored in UGA history is not Todd Monken. It's Mike Bobo. While there will be differences in play calling, if we're using history at UGA to judge who will be better, the evidence points to Bobo.
That being said, Bobo has had stumbles at other places in the SEC. I could very well see some play calling that might be worse in certain scenarios. But there will likely also be some that works better.
As for if Beck can perform "as well as Bennett"... what does that mean? He won't scramble as well as Bennett, but he'll throw a better deep ball and shorter passes will have more zip on them. Is that better on average? Worse?
Here is one analysis of Beck:
" His decision-making skills and understanding of the offense are extremely strong, and his arm strength is among the best in the country.
If Georgia is looking for a guy who knows the offense, takes care of the football, and is excellent at dishing the ball out to highly talented playmakers, then Beck is the guy for the job."
The reality is Beck knows UGA's offense, is accurate and has a cannon. He's more than likely going to have a lot of success unless some sort of "stage fright" issue comes out. But while he's not an experienced starter, he's seen enough game time that if he got the jitters it likely would have shown up last season. Instead he completed 74% of his passes for 9 yards per pass attempt. Yes, he was playing in blowouts, but he was also playing with UGA's second string line and WR's. He wasn't throwing to Brock Bowers or Ladd McConkey. He was throwing to Dillon Bell and Oscar Delp. Good players, sure... but not as good as he'll have this season.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 8:48 am to SidewalkTiger
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And quarterbacks, historically, haven't put up huge numbers under Bobo, especially not first time starters.
Aaron Murray UGA (true Freshman) - 61% completion, 9 yards per pass attempt, 3050 yards in 13 games. 24 TD, 8 INT.
The reality from UGA fans is that either Beck will be good, or he'll be benched. UGA has a large number of extremely talented QB's in their room right now. If Beck does have jitters, then Vandagriff or Stockton will become the starter. It's not like in 2014 where all we had was Joe Cox or 2015 where all we had was Grayson Lambert and we just had to suffer through whatever they gave us. If he's not playing well, one of the others likely will. The chance that all 3 are misses is very small.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 8:51 am to WG_Dawg
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ETA: I guess I didn't really pay attention to the fact that that's 200 YPG assuming we win the east, which on the face of it does sound very low. So idk
2800 over 13 games is 3000 over 14 and 3200 over 15.
Unless injuries or splitting time at QB happens, I think UGA's starter will end up over 3000.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 8:56 am to DawginSC
I don't disagree with anything you've said, my only "point" in this thread was that no one knows what this Beck/Bobo combo will bring to the table yet.
Not sure why some took offense to that, it's the truth.
Not sure why some took offense to that, it's the truth.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 9:02 am to SidewalkTiger
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SidewalkTiger
It's really just simple math.
It's not unreasonable to expect Beck to throw for 250 yards a game. That's 25 less than Stetson did last year.
13 games x 250 ypg = 3250
14 games x 250 ypg = 3500
15 games x 250 ypg = 3750
2700 yds as a over/under would get crushed in Vegas
Posted on 8/21/23 at 9:04 am to Demosthenian
you have like 15 5 star guys. If he can't get to atlanta with this roster than Kirby is a fraud. Your team is that good
Posted on 8/21/23 at 9:07 am to so_comfort
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It's not unreasonable to expect Beck to throw for 250 yards a game. That's 25 less than Stetson did last year.
I mean he could do it but I wouldn't say it's reasonable to expect a first time starter to throw for 250 yards per game.
Especially since Georgia will play a pretty weak schedule and will likely just pound the ball a ton and have a big lead late leading to less passing attempts.
Didn't Stetson throw for around 2800 his first season as a starter?
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