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re: UGA Concerns going into season

Posted on 8/20/23 at 8:48 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 8:48 pm to
Odd.

I asked you to post a link that says Georgia's offense isn't going to fall off, which you claimed to have.

Where is it?
This post was edited on 8/20/23 at 8:49 pm
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 8:50 pm to
Here's another.

LINK

UGA has four of the top 100 players in college football on offense.
And they even left off Dom Lovett.
Posted by Darindawg
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 8:51 pm to
I'm not seeing your point. You were throwing out that a 'backup LSU QB' put up big numbers on us in the SECCG. I was just pointing out how pathetic that was in light of the fact that we mopped the floor with LSU in that game. Would you trade 500 passing yards for a 20 point bullwhipping?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 8:52 pm to
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Some important context:it was 35-7 in the first half.


I'm glad you're finally understanding that Beck's stats in games where Georgia was up 40 points don't really prove anything.

No more than Nussmeier's stats in garbage time of the SECCG.


Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 8:54 pm to
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Here's another.

LINK /

UGA has four of the top 100 players in college football on offense.
And they even left off Dom Lovett.


I'm still waiting on these supposed links that say Georgia's offense isn't going to fall off.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 8:57 pm to
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asked you to post a link that says Georgia's offense isn't going to fall off, which you claimed to have.


Uga is ranked # 1 in both polls due in part because most don’t expect our O to drop off.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 9:00 pm to
The 2nd most talented team in the country has 6 top 100 players on offense and defense in the country.

UGA has 4 on offense alone in a list that doesn't include the conferences' 2nd best returning receiver.

You can choose to ignore the evidence.
But that is on you.

Fans ignored evidence on Stetson and Monken.
Fans ignored evidence on Kenny McIntosh.
Fans ignored evidence on Ladd McConkey.
Fans ignored evidence on our offensive line.

Like I said, this is groundhogs day for UGA.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 9:03 pm to
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I'm glad you're finally understanding that Beck's stats in games where Georgia was up 40 points don't really prove anything. No more than Nussmeier's stats in garbage time of the SECCG.


Those stats should mean something to nuss and your coaches. Are you saying they don’t? If so, lsu isn’t going to sustain any moment of greatness they might stumble into, which is nothing new.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 9:09 pm to
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Uga is ranked # 1 in both polls due in part because most don’t expect our O to drop off.


Well that isn't true at all.

Nearly every preview I've read mentions the offense as having some questions.

UGA homers are the only ones who dismiss that notion.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 9:15 pm to
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Nearly every preview I've read mentions the offense as having some questions.


Yeah. Some questions.

Do you want to address those questions to see which are valid and which arent?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 9:17 pm to
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Yeah. Some questions.

Do you want to address those questions to see which are valid and which arent?


Which questions would you say aren't vaid?
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 9:22 pm to
Show me the questions that you referenced and I will tell you who did their homework.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 9:25 pm to
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Show me the questions that you referenced and I will tell you who did their homework.


The main questions seem to be whether Carson Beck can perform as well as Stetson and whether Bobo can keep the offense humming along at the level that Monken had it at.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 9:39 pm to
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whether Carson Beck can perform as well as Stetson

Well. Stetson was a different QB in 2021 than he was in 2022.

Can Carson be better than 2021 Stetson? Absolutely.
2022? That's asking a lot. Stetson was a pretty complete QB and Carson doesn't have all of the reps.

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whether Bobo can keep the offense humming along at the level that Monken had it at.

That's a different question than if Bobo is as good as Monken.
The offense is Monken's offense. The verbiage is the same.
Bobo has to navigate no Darnell and no McIntosh.
But Bobo has Bowers.
Bobo has an elite offensive line.
Bobo has Lovett, McConkey, and Arian Smith. And the complimentary receivers are solid as well (Rosemy-JackSaint, RaRa Thomas, Dillon Bell).

The weapons are all over the field. The defensive conflict is unavoidable.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 9:48 pm to
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Well. Stetson was a different QB in 2021 than he was in 2022.

Can Carson be better than 2021 Stetson? Absolutely.
2022? That's asking a lot. Stetson was a pretty complete QB and Carson doesn't have all of the reps.


That would likely mean that the offense falls off a bit, unless the running game is that much better.

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That's a different question than if Bobo is as good as Monken.


Is Bobo as good as Monken?
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 10:00 pm to
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That would likely mean that the offense falls off a bit, unless the running game is that much better.


Or if the receivers are better.
Which they are.
This is the most talented receiver room I have ever seen at UGA.

The offensive line is better in our run game. The big loss which changes some of the playcalls is Darnell.
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Is Bobo as good as Monken?

Monken didn't beat his scoring record at UGA.
So yes.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 10:06 pm to
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Or if the receivers are better.
Which they are.
This is the most talented receiver room I have ever seen at UGA.


Just remains to be seen how playcalling helps them and if the quarterback can get them the ball.


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Monken didn't beat his scoring record at UGA.
So yes.





The offensive game was a bit different when Bobo set that record.

And you also say that Bobo will be running Monken's offense now instead of his own.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 10:11 pm to
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Just remains to be seen how playcalling helps them and if the quarterback can get them the ball.
Carson Beck's issues do not relate to getting receivers the ball.
He isn't going to scramble for a TD like Stetson. Carson is the prototypical NFL pocket QB.
We are going to be hitting more deep shots with Arian Smith and Ladd McConkey pushing vertical and Brock Bowers and Dom Lovett grabbing everything that opens up underneath with YAC.
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The offensive game was a bit different when Bobo set that record.

Yeah. It is gotten even easier for offenses to put up points, today.
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And you also say that Bobo will be running Monken's offense now instead of his own.

Correct. Continuity is huge in college football.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 10:14 pm to
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Carson Beck's issues do not relate to getting receivers the ball.


I mean not in garbage time anyway, we haven't seen how he performs when the bullets are flying.

Perhaps he'll be great, no one really knows.

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Yeah. It is gotten even easier for offenses to put up points, today.


Tell that Jimbo, Gus, and the rest of the guys who had great offenses back then, and now, not so much.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 10:16 pm to
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how he performs when the bullets are flying.

Yeah. Our defense sucks.

If he is putting up touchdowns against them, that probably doesn't mean much.
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Tell that Jimbo, Gus, and the rest of the guys who had great offenses back then, and now, not so much.

They probably should recruit better.
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