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re: Tre Mason is better than McFadden and Herschel
Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:01 pm to 3rddownonthe8
Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:01 pm to 3rddownonthe8
About as much as a 48 yr old running a 4.3 forty.
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:02 pm to 3rddownonthe8
If you can't answer your own question then you don't belong in this thread. Catching a squirrel is EVERYTHING. You can leave now.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:04 pm to 3rddownonthe8
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No it's completely different
No it's the same. you are saying what could have been if played differently, using averages. It's exactly the same
You are suggesting more games being played because of what could have happened, but also could have happened with not many more yards and tds as well.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:20 pm to NYCAuburn
You really don't understand how one way is just adding avg to equal the games played.
And the other is changing how a team played the same amount of games ?
Also went back and looked at the stats, Herschel's numbers include Zero bowl games . Do you are comparing a 14 game numbers for Tre to 11 for Herschel.
There really us no comparison.
Herschel did it for 3 straight seasons, Tre?
Btw Herschel had 2 more TD in the Bowl game that year.
When it come to backs in CFB there is Herschel and Bo and no one else needs to apply !
And the other is changing how a team played the same amount of games ?
Also went back and looked at the stats, Herschel's numbers include Zero bowl games . Do you are comparing a 14 game numbers for Tre to 11 for Herschel.
There really us no comparison.
Herschel did it for 3 straight seasons, Tre?
Btw Herschel had 2 more TD in the Bowl game that year.
When it come to backs in CFB there is Herschel and Bo and no one else needs to apply !
Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:20 pm to gatorhata9
Books also lie, but he probably can't read them...
Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:25 pm to 3rddownonthe8
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You really don't understand how one way is just adding avg to equal the games played.
I understand completely, you don't understand how both scenarios are based off the same thing, both use what ifs, that could also not happen. You are being hypocritical by discrediting the other.
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Herschel did it for 3 straight seasons, Tre?
The op is about a single season
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There really us no comparison.
This is true, because of the way football was played, then vs now, and several other things. However you can compare single season production and averages and they are similar.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:28 pm to 3rddownonthe8
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Do you are comparing a 14 game numbers for Tre to 11 for Herschel.
There really us no comparison.
It is difficult to have a debate with someone who writes in code.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:45 pm to gatorhata9
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Tre Mason is better than McFadden and Herschel
hmm....
Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:57 pm to gatorhata9
actually numbers lie all the damn time. Remember that video about how Notre Dame's defense was going to stonewall Alabama because of their D stats?
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:14 pm to NYCAuburn
Here are some other comparison stats:
248 att 1710 yds 6.9ypc 20tds 12 games
317 att 1816 yds 5.7ypc 21tds 14 games
Which had the better year?
The second line is Tre Mason. The first is Garrison Hearst in 1992.
248 att 1710 yds 6.9ypc 20tds 12 games
317 att 1816 yds 5.7ypc 21tds 14 games
Which had the better year?
The second line is Tre Mason. The first is Garrison Hearst in 1992.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:05 am to YHCDawg
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The second line is Tre Mason. The first is Garrison Hearst in 1992.
So you are saying Garrison Hearst is better than Herschel too?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:34 am to GenesChin
Y'all need to compare careers, not just a single season.....
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:37 am to GenesChin
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:25 am to Hog Springs
Hard to compare careers, when one
one went
5502 total yds / 5.4ypc / 52 tds
33-3, 18-0 (sec) 1 NC ( PLAYED FOR 3), 3 SEC TITLES
and finished 3rd, 2nd, and 1st in the Heisman
and the other
3228 total yds 6.0ypc/ 33 tds
23-16, 11-13 (sec) 0 NC, 1 SEC TITLE
and finished 6th once in the Heisman
One is an ICON, the other looks like a Con.
Before you say this is about one season..
Babe Ruth hit 60 in 154 games , prolly drunk
Barry Bonds hit 73 in 162, on steroids
Who was the better slugger.
one went
5502 total yds / 5.4ypc / 52 tds
33-3, 18-0 (sec) 1 NC ( PLAYED FOR 3), 3 SEC TITLES
and finished 3rd, 2nd, and 1st in the Heisman
and the other
3228 total yds 6.0ypc/ 33 tds
23-16, 11-13 (sec) 0 NC, 1 SEC TITLE
and finished 6th once in the Heisman
One is an ICON, the other looks like a Con.
Before you say this is about one season..
Babe Ruth hit 60 in 154 games , prolly drunk
Barry Bonds hit 73 in 162, on steroids
Who was the better slugger.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:46 am to 3rddownonthe8
Someone should tweet/Instagram a link to this thread to Tre Mason. He should know what happens when anyone associated with Auburn mentions Herschel and then for him to say he's better
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:08 am to TTsTowel
The fact of the matter is that ERA and system (read context) are important when discussing one player versus another.
If you swapped them, would Mason have had the same success on Herschel's team?
Would Walker have produced similar or better numbers on Tre's?
If you swapped them, would Mason have had the same success on Herschel's team?
Would Walker have produced similar or better numbers on Tre's?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:11 am to gatorhata9
Tre is/was a great RB, but Herschel Walker is one of the top 1-2 running backs ever to play the game. he and Bo Jackson.
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:15 am to Mahootney
quote:NO
If you swapped them, would Mason have had the same success on Herschel's team?
quote:YES
Would Walker have produced similar or better numbers on Tre's?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:21 am to FlatwoodsForester
cant believe this thread is still alive...
ok either tre mason is average and the SEC is in a world of hurt because average kids can step into Gus' system and put up big numbers. imagine an above average kid if this were true...
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tre mason truly was good enough to put up numbers similar to walker and DMc. if this were true this argument is no longer valid and this thread needs to die.
-also to add-
Mason is getting exactly what he wanted out of the media and the fanbases... thinking about him... talking about his talent... researching his numbers...
ok either tre mason is average and the SEC is in a world of hurt because average kids can step into Gus' system and put up big numbers. imagine an above average kid if this were true...
-or-
tre mason truly was good enough to put up numbers similar to walker and DMc. if this were true this argument is no longer valid and this thread needs to die.
-also to add-
Mason is getting exactly what he wanted out of the media and the fanbases... thinking about him... talking about his talent... researching his numbers...
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:31 am to TheSandman
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No, but he's the second-best running back to walk the halls of Auburn University.*
*Edit: In the post-Shug Jordan Era
Don't know 'bout that as Auburn had some hosses in the Doug Barfield "era" (1976-80) as well...William Andrews, Joe Cribbs, and James Brooks (I would add Lionel James but he only played sparingly in Barfield's last season) were all great backs and would all put up good numbers in the NFL to boot. Their college numbers would've been even better if they wouldn't have had to share carries with each other...or perhaps if they'd had a better coach during this time...
Brooks (the best HS back I've ever seen in person) in particular would've thrived in Auburn's current system...not only was he a breakaway threat, he could catch the ball out of the backfield as well (which the NFL took much more advantage of than did Barfield)...
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