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re: Trask, Bryant, and Tagovailoa have trouble reading defenses?
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:10 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:10 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:You want my opinion?
It's frustrating because he's able - he was as good as anybody at it last year. I'm not sure what the deal is, but it's been long enough that it's not just a small sample size at this point.
They were designed deep passes alot of times. Where as this year, with the change in offense, they appear to be a second read
Tua seems to be phenomenal with accuracy on read 1, something is off on read 2.
Now, when scrambling, he seems to be good outside the pocket
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:12 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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5 - Texas A&M (114.95 QB Rating against)
Bro. Texas A&M hasn’t played anybody
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:12 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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Throwing to your initial read is generally encouraged if your initial read is your best option........so.......
Best option = 1 yard down the field.
gEnErAtiOnAl tAlEnT
Do you get more points for a 60 yd pass to the endzone than a 8 yd pass that goes an additional 52 YAC?
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:13 pm to lsupride87
He’s not throwing as many of those lofted bombs this year it doesn’t seem. Ones where Jeudy just runs away from someone and easily catches the ball all alone.
He hasn’t been as accurate throwing downfield.
Idk for sure but it seems like more of his longer throws this year have been a little bit more improvised and kinda last second ropes when nothing else is open or when he’s late to see that deeper guy open.
He hasn’t been as accurate throwing downfield.
Idk for sure but it seems like more of his longer throws this year have been a little bit more improvised and kinda last second ropes when nothing else is open or when he’s late to see that deeper guy open.
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:14 pm to lsupride87
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They were designed deep passes alot of times. Where as this year, with the change in offense, they appear to be a second read
Tua seems to be phenomenal with accuracy on read 1, something is off on read 2.
I don't disagree. He reads last year were run/pass, if pass, deep shot.
This year the option is run/pass, if pass, slant.
I'd still take this year's offense over last year's all day, but he's going to have to make some of those throws sooner or later because a team is going to sit on everything and make him. The good news is a lot of times they do that and our receivers are so open that an under-throw doesn't matter much.
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:16 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:Yeh, that is kinda what I see too
He’s not throwing as many of those lofted bombs this year it doesn’t seem. Ones where Jeudy just runs away from someone and easily catches the ball all alone.
He hasn’t been as accurate throwing downfield.
Idk for sure but it seems like more of his longer throws this year have been a little bit more improvised and kinda last second ropes when nothing else is open or when he’s late to see that deeper guy open.
I just dont know how I feel about Tua in the NFL
He has a perfect release, and unbeliable accuracy and timing with his first read. But two things kinda terrify me
Throwing from the pocket when read 1 is covered seems to be very shaky (improvising outside the pocket is fine), and he doesnt get hit often at all and yet he still has managed two surgeries already
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:17 pm to SummerOfGeorge
4) Florida has a better defense than new mexico state
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:18 pm to Vestigial Morgan
Cool points? 60 all day.
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:18 pm to lsupride87
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I just dont know how I feel about Tua in the NFL
I absolutely think he has to go to the right system. I always thought the "Tank for Tua" stuff was way over the top. He's a great QB with some great skills, but the whole "he's the greatest QB of a generation" stuff was so much media over the top stuff.........and then the media turned on him a little like they always do (Trevor Lawrence currently in the same media cycle).
He'd be great in certain systems with certain teachers. He'd be a bust in others. I just hope he ends up in the right place, but I'm not sure he's going to because those places generally are already set at QB.
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:19 pm to Diesel88
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4) Florida has a better defense than new mexico state
5) Texas A&M has a better defense than Northwestern State
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:21 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:Bingo. Honestly, there are very few QBs who I think can make it in the NFL regardless of team or system
He'd be great in certain systems with certain teachers. He'd be a bust in others. I just hope he ends up in the right place, but I'm not sure he's going to because those places generally are already set at QB.
Off hand now I think the following about nfl qbs:
There are 5 qbs who can make it anywhere
There are 10-15 that can make it and look good or bad depending on where they play, and the other 12-17 just cant hack it
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:22 pm to lsupride87
quote:Me neither.
I just dont know how I feel about Tua in the NFL
I’ve never been too terribly high on him as an NFL prospect, though. And now it’s hard to argue he isn’t injury prone.
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:23 pm to atrueamerican
your Twitter page is full of fabricated statistics in an attempt to become a PFF knock off.
go promote it someone else
go promote it someone else
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:24 pm to lsupride87
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Bingo. Honestly, there are very few QBs who I think can make it in the NFL regardless of team or system
Off hand now I think the following about nfl qbs:
There are 5 qbs who can make it anywhere
There are 10-15 that can make it and look good or bad depending on where they play, and the other 12-17 just cant hack it
Yep - I mean, there are certain guys who are just built to be able to take hits and can probably throw and survive in different systems.
That is why so many were so enamored with Lawrence. His body and skillset look like the type that could function in a shotgun RPO, a west coast or a vertical passing game. But there aren't many of those guys.
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:26 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:Hoenstly, this sounds so frickign crazy coming out of my keyboard, I think Burrow might be that guy
That is why so many were so enamored with Lawrence. His body and skillset look like the type that could function in a shotgun RPO, a west coast or a vertical passing game. But there aren't many of those guys.
I mean, he played in the worst offensive system known to man last year and managed to look at least mediocre
He is absolutely killing it this year with the RPO-making progressions and having fantastic deep ball accuracy as well
And the dude can take a hit and ask for more like a freaking linebacker
I feel weird just typing that about an LSU qb
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:31 pm to lsupride87
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Hoenstly, this sounds so frickign crazy coming out of my keyboard, I think Burrow might be that guy
I mean, he played in the worst offensive system known to man last year and managed to look at least mediocre
He is absolutely killing it this year with the RPO-making progressions and having fantastic deep ball accuracy as well
And the dude can take a hit and ask for more like a freaking linebacker
I don't disagree with that. I'll be curious to see what teams think of arm strength in terms of ability to zip balls across hash to hash (it's certainly not bad, I'll just honestly be curious to see how good it is), but his accuracy and durability/athleticism are combination that is really frickin hard to find. I'd pick him first out of the current group of 2020 QBs regardless of system.
I have no idea what to make out of Herbert.
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:32 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:If I gave an opinion Id be talking out of my arse
I have no idea what to make out of Herbert.
I havent seen but 1 game from him
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:32 pm to atrueamerican
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Trask, Bryant, and Tagovailoa have trouble reading defenses?
That is why I was correct about K. Bryant. those 3 losses it was on K. Bryant! Yes there were other players fault and the coaching staffs fault but if K. Bryant had played like a 4 star quarterback Missouri would have won those games.
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:33 pm to lsupride87
quote:It isn’t for lack of actively looking and keeping his feet hips and shoulders pointed where his eyes are looking a as he scans the field with extreme quickness.
Throwing from the pocket when read 1 is covered seems to be very shaky
I think that’s where you see pushback from Alabama fans on Tua not going through progressions.
He LOOKS like an NFL QB scanning the field. I’m not sure where the disconnect between what he’s physically doing and his stats comes from(if that’s what his stats are showing).
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:36 pm to lsupride87
quote:I’m not sure if that’s how it works
What if you initial read is open only 3 yards beyond the LOS, but there is another guy open 15 yards downfield?
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