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re: TOP 5 modern SEC RBs
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:29 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:29 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Henry did have better figures against the better teams on his schedule, though.
Henry had the benefit of not facing the best rush D in the county too.
You can keep changing the criteria if you want, but it won't change the fact that they are neck and neck on the season.
The great divider will be Fournette is going to end with a much, much better career, overall.
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:30 pm to FightinTiga
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Okay buddy,Henry is better than LF no matter what I say
I've pretty adamantly stated that both are great and I think it's splitting hairs.
I do think Henry has had a better season than Fournette in 2015.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:30 pm to bbqsaturdays
Gurley has to be 1a or 1b with Dmac or Lattimore.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:31 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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It also involves games against Syracuse, South Carolina and Florida while Henry's were against Wisconsin (Top 5 run D), Georgia and Tennessee.
UF is 7th in rush D. Why leave that out?
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:32 pm to RB10
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Henry had the benefit of not facing the best rush D in the county too.
That is fine, but then you also have to account for the fact that Henry faced Wisconsin (#5 Rush D), Georgia (#43 SEC Rush D) and Tennessee (#65 SEC Rush D) while Fournette faced Syracuse (#94 Rush D), Florida (#9 Rush D) and South Carolina (#110 Rush D).
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:33 pm to RB10
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UF is 7th in rush D. Why leave that out?
Yards Per Carry
Florida - #9 (3.30)
Syracuse - #94 (4.75)
South Carolina - #110 (5.13)
Wisconsin - #5 (3.19)
Georgia - #43 (3.97)
Tennessee - #65 (4.25)
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:34 pm to GIbson05
He said based solely on ability, that's why. So I didn't look at stats or team success, I looked at who I thought had the best overall ability and skills. That's why he's #1
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:34 pm to bbqsaturdays
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I can't put Gurley any lower than 2nd.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:35 pm to Pygthagorean Theorem
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I would put Jonathon Williams and Alex Collins below Dmac and Felix as 3 and 4
Cedric Cobbs?
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:35 pm to PurpleandGeauld
Won't argue, Guice is the truth. LF on the other hand isn't fit to carry Hurd's jock, tired of watching him run straight into the back of his lineman.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:37 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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That is fine, but then you also have to account for the fact that Henry faced Wisconsin (#5 Rush D), Georgia (#43 SEC Rush D) and Tennessee (#65 SEC Rush D) while Fournette faced Syracuse (#94 Rush D), Florida (#9 Rush D) and South Carolina (#110 Rush D).
Henry was carrying the rock late into the 4th against UGA, UT & AU while Fournette was watching from the sidelines for a full quarter in each game.
See, I can move the goalposts too.
There is one fact in all of this nonsense:
They've both had great years. Each being better in certain areas than the other.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:38 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Yards Per Carry
Florida - #9 (3.30)
Syracuse - #94 (4.75)
South Carolina - #110 (5.13)
Wisconsin - #5 (3.19)
Georgia - #43 (3.97)
Tennessee - #65 (4.25)
So, YPC is all that matters to you now? I guess that makes Fournette better than Henry.
Glad we settled it.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:41 pm to GIbson05
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You mean the only 2 Heisman winning RBs in the SEC for the last 30 years?
So for 100 years all we heard from Alabama fans was that the Heisman trophy was overrated. Then they FINALLY get a Heisman winner, and now it means something.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:41 pm to RB10
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See, I can move the goalposts too.
I mean, there are no goalposts to move.
Fournette piled up the majority of his yards against teams with losing records. He has giant splits between the two.
Leonard Fournette
vs FBS Winning teams (7 games): 4.88 ypc, 125.4 ypg, 1.29 TD per game
vs FBS Non-Winning teams (4 games) : 9.48 ypc, 215.8 ypg, 2.25 TD per game
Derrick Henry
vs FBS Winning teams (9 games) : 6.19 ypc, 156.2 ypg, 2.00 TD per game
vs FBS Non-Winning teams (2 games) : 5.47 ypc, 161.5 ypg, 1.00 TD per game
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:42 pm to SummerOfGeorge
^
Science
Science
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:42 pm to RB10
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I guess that makes Fournette better than Henry.
Because he averaged almost 10 ypc against Syracuse, South Carolina, Auburn and Eastern Michigan?
I mean, alright.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:42 pm to GIbson05
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You mean the only 2 Heisman winning RBs in the SEC for the last 30 years?
Ingram won a heisman with 2 30 yard rushing games. He rushed for under 60 yards 3 times and under 100 5 times. Ingram doesn't deserve any top 5. Hell LF had more rushing yards and a higher ypc and more rushing tds
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:43 pm to RB10
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RB10
You always got onto me this summer for participating in chubb threads defending NC, yet here you still are defnding LF to the death practically every other day lol.
Not hating, just point it out.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:45 pm to Piscinin
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LF on the other hand isn't fit to carry Hurd's jock
You're stupid. Every single person who evaluates talent disagrees with you.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:45 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I mean, there are no goalposts to move.
You've gone from overall stats, to stats vs. P5 teams, to stats vs. P5 winning teams.
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Fournette piled up the majority of his yards against teams with losing records. He has giant splits between the two.
Fournette piled up the majority of his yards before his FB and blocking TE went out for the season and his two freshman guards' inexperience got exposed.
FIFY
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