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re: Top 10 SEC "National Champions" that aren't "recognized" widely by many

Posted on 5/4/17 at 10:55 am to
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 10:55 am to
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Lsu won't be topping any poll anytime soon with the shite you just hired.


What the hell was that for? I'm just having fun and put 4 Alabama teams and 0 LSU.
Posted by RollTiger1987
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 10:56 am to
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We were the best two teams that year by a wide margin. As an LSU fan, I wish we had played Okie St in the final game. We would have destroyed them and yes, bc of our schedule that year, we would've had a legit claim to the best ever. But I knew after the first game we were the two best teams in the country.

10 fg
1 TD
2+ games

That was some crazy good defense by both teams



OSU and Stanford both would've given each of those teams fits.

LSU completely sucked on offense if they couldn't run directly up the middle. They typically relied on Mathieu making a game-changing play on Special Teams or their defense giving them a short field by forcing mistakes of the opponent.

Alabama simply denied them either opportunity in the bowl game and embarrassed them.

There wasn't really anything special about any team in 2011. Just a total devoid of offensive talent across the country, outside of Stanford and OSU.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 10:58 am to
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The fact of the matter is, USC and Oklahoma began the season #1 and #2 respectively. They finished their seasons undefeated. Had Auburn not disappointed so epically in 2003, they might have been able to sneak into the national championship picture in 2004.



the real fact of the matter is had BGSU not canceled the game with AU for a game with OU, we would have been in the game.
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
3163 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:01 am to
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yet 3 6 and 7 are more valid than several that Bama claims.


They are better than '41. That's it.
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:03 am to
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The fact of the matter is, USC and Oklahoma began the season #1 and #2 respectively.
Which should have had no bearing on who played for the championship, but it did and the system changed largely because of this.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:04 am to
Many in this thread are missing the point.

Alabama doesn't claim any of the ones listed in the OP, but they'd certainly have an argument if they tried.
Posted by JCinBAMA
North of Huntsville
Member since Oct 2009
17584 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:16 am to
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Top 10 SEC "National Champions" that aren't "recognized" widely by many


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Alabama 2011



GumpBait?
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 3:42 pm
Posted by REBSontheRISE
Member since Nov 2008
4420 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:17 am to
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They are better than '41. That's it.


1959 and 1962 are way more legitimate than 1964 Alabama...Ole Miss split the title with a 2 loss Minnesota in 59. 62 ole miss went undefeated and split with USC because there was no way the media was gonna give it to the Rebels with the national guard occupying our campus during the James Meredith fiasco.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:22 am to
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1959 and 1962 are way more legitimate than 1964 Alabama..


So now non-major poll titles are more legitimate than actual titles awarded by the AP or Upi/coaches?

I said in the other thread the goal posts are always moving in this argument about Alabama's "16 titles". But now you troglodytes are questioning actual poll titles too?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64985 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:23 am to
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1959 and 1962 are way more legitimate than 1964 Alabama


1964 Alabama was awarded the AP and UPI national championship. It doesn't get any more legitimate than that.

If bowl games had mattered as much then as they do now, there's a decent chance Alabama wins that game against Texas. But, let's be honest here, Namath scored on third and goal as well as fourth and goal. The refs cheated us out of that one.



This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 11:25 am
Posted by BranchDawg
Flowery Branch
Member since Nov 2013
9830 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:29 am to
I don't think most people recognize UGA's 1942 title, although we claim it.

Also, we don't claim it, but go back and look yourself, we should've claimed the 1946 title.
Posted by REBSontheRISE
Member since Nov 2008
4420 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:30 am to
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So now non-major poll titles are more legitimate than actual titles awarded by the AP or Upi/coaches?


in 1959 and 1962 they most certainly were...for the reasons I already listed.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64985 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:32 am to
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in 1959 and 1962 they most certainly were...for the reasons I already listed.



You don't get to make up championship seasons in the Poll Era (and this includes Alabama's '41 title claim). You play by the rules that were established. If you weren't awarded the national championship by the AP, UPI, or FWAA in 1959 and 1962, guess what: You weren't national champions!
Posted by Oklahomey
Bucksnort, TN
Member since Mar 2013
4998 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:38 am to
FWAA doesn't count either. LSU wins both AP and UPI going 10-0 before finishing 11-0-0. FWAA crowns Iowa which went 8-1-1. FWAA and NFF don't have credibility like the AP and Coaches.
Posted by Oklahomey
Bucksnort, TN
Member since Mar 2013
4998 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:41 am to
Syracuse was the only champion in 1959 winning both the UPI and AP.

Despite an 10-0-1 Ole Miss record in 1960, the AP and UPI deemed an 8-2 Minnesota the better selection. Ole Miss doesn't have any part of the 1960 national title.
Posted by REBSontheRISE
Member since Nov 2008
4420 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:43 am to
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You don't get to make up championship seasons in the Poll Era (and this includes Alabama's '41 title claim). You play by the rules that were established. If you weren't awarded the national championship by the AP, UPI, or FWAA in 1959 and 1962, guess what: You weren't national champions!


Ole Miss was, however, far and away the best team those 2 years. politics kept the media from awarding the title to them. and you know this.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54621 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:44 am to
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Ole Miss doesn't have any part of the 1960 national title.


Were you alive back then?

Rebs got robbed because of what was going on off the field, not what was being played on it.
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
3163 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:45 am to
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Ole Miss split the title with a 2 loss Minnesota in 59


You're thinking of 1960. In '59, 10-1 Ole Miss "split" the title with 11-0 Syracuse.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54621 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:46 am to
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I'm sure this will be a nice, civil rights thread.


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3. 1960 Ole Miss

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7. 1962 Ole Miss



FIFY

Nice lure on your casting bait BTW, will catch lots of West schools.
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:49 am to
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7. 1962 Ole Miss



Recognized by the NCAA

ETA: meant 1960, which is recognized by the NCAA
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 11:52 am
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